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Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 13:25:02 -0500
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To: Eugene Sidelnyk <zsidelnik@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Community to support Ukraine and help to stop
 Russian agression
From: vasilii.b.shpilchin@gmail.com (Vasilii Shpilchin)

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There's no such thing as 70% support of Putin. A people from ouside of
Russia has no chance to understand the internal situation. As a russian
living in USA I must say, any (any) mainstream media to fake the Russia's
image, more or less. But russian people is under pressure for many years,
internal economy is weak for many years, human rights are nearly
eliminated. Russia is also a federation of many nations. Please, do not
connect majority of russian people with this agression. In that country
people has much less power than you can think living in a free country.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2022, 12:57 PM Eugene Sidelnyk <zsidelnik@gmail.com> wrote:

> All the world currently talks about the situation in Ukraine. Everyone wh=
o
> knows the truth are trying to help stop invasion. The main problem here i=
s
> that most of Russian people believe in Putin's political position. Moreov=
er
> they will have Instagram and Twitter blocked soon in Russia so that they
> won't be able to know the real state of things.
>
> Therefore our responsibility is to bring the truth to Russian people and
> they will do the rest. PS. 70% of surveyed people support Putin. How else
> we can inform them of what is really going on if not writing about it
> everywhere?
>
> If you, as PHP community, do not do anything about it, it would mean that
> you don't care. Well, everyone who writes php internals is for discussion
> of php internals only doesn't care and probably won't.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022, 5:49 PM Arvids Godjuks <arvids.godjuks@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 11:31, Victor Bolshov <crocodile2u@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello internals.
> > >
> > > In these dark days for humanity, we as people of civilization, people
> > > of sanity, kind and caring people with children and families - we hav=
e
> > > to speak up, loud and clear, in support for Ukraine. To stop Russian
> > > aggression.
> > >
> > > I suggest to add Ukranian flag and a supportive anti-war disclaimer t=
o
> > > the header of php.net website.
> > >
> > > Why is this important? There are a lot of PHP developers in Russia. A
> > > lot of them, sadly, have been brainwashed by Putin's propaganda. They
> > > still must have a lot of respect to PHP authors and creators. Seeing
> > > that these people, who have their respect, are against the war and fo=
r
> > > the freedom of Ukraine, might have an impact.
> > >
> > > This is not the time to "stay away from politics", we are experiencin=
g
> > > an attack on humanity itself. Take example from
> > > <https://junit.org/junit5/> and their clear statement.
> > >
> > > Say NO to war!
> > >
> > >
> >
> > As someone from Baltics and living there still - yeah, colour be yellow
> and
> > blue all the way.
> >
> > But I also think we should leave php.net out of it - this is not a
> project
> > with a core tea - this is a very distributed project that probably
> touches
> > almost every single country on this planet.
> >
> > Another reason - just look what happened to the React's issue tracker:
> > https://github.com/facebook/react/issues  - you can bet your life on it
> > that this will happen to the PHP project as soon as there is anything o=
n
> > this topic done. Does the project has resources to deal with it? I mean=
,
> > this is basically a DDoS that can be solved only by closing off issue
> > creation from public.
> >
> > It's just impractical and will ruin maintainers and contributors abilit=
y
> to
> > do their work for the foreseeable future.
> > --
> >
> > Arv=C4=ABds Godjuks
> > +371 26 851 664
> > arvids.godjuks@gmail.com
> > Telegram: @psihius https://t.me/psihius
> >
>

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