Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:117246 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 7829 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2022 16:52:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2022 16:52:44 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA61180505 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2022 10:14:31 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to unix socket '/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl': connect: Connection refused) X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-yw1-f181.google.com (mail-yw1-f181.google.com [209.85.128.181]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2022 10:14:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yw1-f181.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-2dc585dbb02so1730527b3.13 for ; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 10:14:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0HAp/W7k8rEPBm+JeC4p9f2jR+65zDqfoaAFyWyaJ4Q=; b=i3b0++PCVifKWbizAyO6ElGgtgEXBs9RfFmAJvT/Kj6/0vZAVqrKvSx8ilBvjFuRcS rJ3MjFUj+UKMc63BVnCG0dLvnJct0vm2uRpp/yhTV+x/5vu5d+DBeQKMyc7vcjwGTLr5 H86FSsbtGqaYm3nVoQVoVdwCyfMZlFjttQ99Q+5aFcnahuIxohuaKWQ6iYDy8LV7Ww/s c/PD3v6Jgxk1fRSqI4D10cf0OLg0/2wmNCkPXjhaCGuzkBMv0X6z6p6oPngXYVHN5diy fUV1ODag7Ts2r93vt/tNXWealamccHbe0BGqJF4G+EvCSuXQ/8K91kv0aToNUdrCyXyH rdQQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=0HAp/W7k8rEPBm+JeC4p9f2jR+65zDqfoaAFyWyaJ4Q=; b=KtIeA7svfEWJHcHW8C1HgVe04mqGI7jM/Ywut7lkBY1f4srni12nN2JGlJGIdfbULw ry0bNLlQmesW9ErJj9XUK9+eRvhjPtMylHfEkPW7TTLVL8XuxdgzKxMmPdAWDj/+dsXD 1z8V0JUMaWL1Whu8qK2AiqJr2idQ0iVLXqNscYIBfAG6fJ0bMFmPuyEQMmbbh+LccPAE gZfXhUxcD/4VEvlETwHLCawF55RbY1Udw7IrksvfZLWVqtWcHRZeM14CMnHxvQlx173x aumq/bsRK5//ilNTv//lx20fa4vPnl6/L+mRCGF65cg9aAtEHG5qkG0BPLl6oOGfN1R2 jvQA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531+xIajlrVYVovmkfmYvrT9dvm/+w4/RrFDdmnpl/KjjioTSfAV L6ePPWEKPyakm90Ydb1Q68Lw4r4lmNU4j5pkfRqJn648 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwQwZdcZINali66Nsn1q7/kau08O+x9QI39je/wX9HcA/GGleDk5Z35LTZ6/hGxONnwlkJ7D66PmI5rCh6D9WQ= X-Received: by 2002:a0d:e282:0:b0:2dc:394a:aa2 with SMTP id l124-20020a0de282000000b002dc394a0aa2mr3570669ywe.215.1646331270434; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 10:14:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220303181025.GL26851@phcomp.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20220303181025.GL26851@phcomp.co.uk> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 20:14:20 +0200 Message-ID: To: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008e928605d9545e8f" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Community to support Ukraine and help to stop Russian agression From: zsidelnik@gmail.com (Eugene Sidelnyk) --0000000000008e928605d9545e8f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Maybe we'd create an RFC, create an poll and decide this way? On Thu, Mar 3, 2022, 8:10 PM Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 07:56:39PM +0200, Eugene Sidelnyk wrote: > > > If you, as PHP community, do not do anything about it, it would mean that > > you don't care. Well, everyone who writes php internals is for discussion > > of php internals only doesn't care and probably won't. > > Not true, I do care. I have done several things, eg: the Ukraine flag is > on my > own web site. > > However: I do not believe that it is right for this to be on the php.net > web > site. PHP is not either a political organisation nor something with a high > public profile: we are not FIFA. If we support Ukraine who else do we > support. > > We can encourage that those on this list should show their support in > their own > way. We can not put it stronger than that; we might also find that some on > this > list might support what Putin is doing, we must respect their views - if so > then discussion with them should be elsewhere - not on this list. > > I am very sympathetic, but I think that PHP should avoid this issue. > > -- > Alain Williams > Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT > Lecturer. > +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ > Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: > https://www.phcomp.co.uk/Contact.html > #include > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: https://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --0000000000008e928605d9545e8f--