Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:117245 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 6408 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2022 16:48:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2022 16:48:41 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25DF81804D9 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2022 10:10:28 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS8468 78.32.0.0/15 X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to unix socket '/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl': connect: Connection refused) X-Envelope-From: Received: from mint.phcomp.co.uk (freshmint.phcomp.co.uk [78.32.209.33]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2022 10:10:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from addw by mint.phcomp.co.uk with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nPpuD-0002sE-Ms for internals@lists.php.net; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 18:10:25 +0000 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 18:10:25 +0000 To: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <20220303181025.GL26851@phcomp.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: internals@lists.php.net References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: Parliament Hill Computers Ltd User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Community to support Ukraine and help to stop Russian agression From: addw@phcomp.co.uk (Alain D D Williams) On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 07:56:39PM +0200, Eugene Sidelnyk wrote: > If you, as PHP community, do not do anything about it, it would mean that > you don't care. Well, everyone who writes php internals is for discussion > of php internals only doesn't care and probably won't. Not true, I do care. I have done several things, eg: the Ukraine flag is on my own web site. However: I do not believe that it is right for this to be on the php.net web site. PHP is not either a political organisation nor something with a high public profile: we are not FIFA. If we support Ukraine who else do we support. We can encourage that those on this list should show their support in their own way. We can not put it stronger than that; we might also find that some on this list might support what Putin is doing, we must respect their views - if so then discussion with them should be elsewhere - not on this list. I am very sympathetic, but I think that PHP should avoid this issue. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: https://www.phcomp.co.uk/Contact.html #include