Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:117239 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 74968 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2022 10:11:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2022 10:11:52 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7A5180505 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2022 03:33:34 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to unix socket '/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl': connect: Connection refused) X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-pl1-f177.google.com (mail-pl1-f177.google.com [209.85.214.177]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2022 03:33:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pl1-f177.google.com with SMTP id bd1so4246282plb.13 for ; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 03:33:34 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Zc/N9w5oa89aiQfmRexaX3Q9JSBXDJ+1kQfylClcGiI=; b=LPENLXjWin/DyDzch0jqnk68IB4ithB6M6khCsZU5EsRi3WchU2EqUtUouSom2ixU+ ucwdQz8/n1PUfy80uLLoRa108PiOFofzAqE8yKXD27QyT7rD2k4a/eYl0WYOND0c6IQo a9jQYjkBJRSpfwwm6SG1x7jyGEX2zQlr5Iufj+Gesyrcu7Ilp4pN84TM/t1hq9X1bQUi 3L1O8zh9E6q5peBq0Y3eI9a8WISCPUEWJa0+iE1r4OeEAk/PpBMHZE/YX4wCAxT33mbV xejS3H5SZ+BoPcjktzHcKwx6+c/AT36DFwuGf8Fxe+skDkPws9uhzmjUKktOxt1YIpt0 hYPg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533gG5iEY/OfOfjumLaaU5XpFtHZdC03ki+dINR0dovqhBD6/DIQ LT7DdQbTEwyZJ/zuNWVY10aTWtEC1DkD9X99ejQtd2RD X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxk6WBnubEEGj0q/ePcnO2QcggjD4KMbbySehYd4vaslAZvXA2pKchWRmSe3dKpfNptJDEx4wBP7kqJ8d+7OYo= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:c286:b0:151:605c:fadd with SMTP id i6-20020a170902c28600b00151605cfaddmr21299703pld.100.1646307212664; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 03:33:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <58d3c0f2-8b8e-49be-840e-079cb53cd267@Spark> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 13:33:22 +0200 Message-ID: To: Christian Schneider Cc: Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Community to support Ukraine and help to stop Russian agression From: kalle@php.net (Kalle Sommer Nielsen) Den tor. 3. mar. 2022 kl. 11.54 skrev Christian Schneider : > Even if a project stays neutral on most topics does not mean there is not a threshold where joining a wide-spread appeal or sign of solidarity is the right thing to do. Yeah and that same argument can be applied to both the examples I just mentioned above. How many projects joined the BLM movement too by making statements? And when will that be used as an argument to push the PHP project to make statements on every world event? > The question where you set that threshold is a different question. > Personally I'd support a banner on the website but won't hold it against people who think otherwise. To me the question is rather binary, because like stated above, it can be used as an argument to force a reason for why something should be done. I understand the sentiment in the message trying to be conveyed, but I don't agree with turning the project into such a forum. -- regards, Kalle Sommer Nielsen kalle@php.net