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Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2022 09:27:58 +0100
To: Sergey Panteleev <sergey@s-panteleev.ru>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Community to support Ukraine and help to stop
 Russian agression
From: crocodile2u@gmail.com (Victor Bolshov)

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Even a simple sign of solidarity against the war is important, if this=20
is something community can agree to, without having to fall into mutual=20
hatred.

I personally would love to see a clear support for Ukraine, but if that=20
will be causing endless debate I would give up on this in favor of a=20
general anti-war statement, at least until it is clear to the vast=20
majority of smart people here that Putin is a threat for humanity and=20
civilization, and I am NOT exaggerating. Ukraine is currently the=20
civilized world's outpost that is giving their lives to oppose madness=20
and chaos.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 10:31, Sergey Panteleev <sergey@s-panteleev.ru>=20
wrote:
> Hey all,
>=20
> I'd like to add my 2c:
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> I agree that php.net is not the right place to express our personal=20
> citizenship.
> It's better to use Twitter, Facebook, or another social network for=20
> these purposes.
>=20
>=20
> If you believe that the PHP community is obliged to show solidarity=20
> on the php.net,
> and not every person personally,
> I suggest that instead of a banner we release a News on the main page.
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>> Why is this important? There are a lot of PHP developers in Russia.
>> A lot of them, sadly, have been brainwashed by Putin's propaganda.
>> They still must have a lot of respect to PHP authors and creators.
>> Seeing that these people, who have their respect, are against the=20
>> war and for the freedom of Ukraine, might have an impact.
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> I can not answer for all Russian developers, but I can judge by=20
> myself and my social circle:
> we're against the war, "military operation" or any other aggression,=20
> whatever you want to call it.
>=20
> Also, colleagues from the IT industry have drafted an open letter to=20
> the national government [1-2].
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> In addition to highlighting the problem, we can also add these links:
> in this case, developers from Russia will see, that not only people,
> who have their respect do not support the war, but also their fellow=20
> countrymen.
>=20
> [1]=20
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rSmclqedrhTASIsyXLOz39pU0WzV8b443au9=
X88Lx_c/edit>
> [2]=20
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jBJPwCkR6UfTF_6KnU6m5w3ViDj4076r_Bvd=
88UwCKg/edit>
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> =97
> wbr,
> Sergey Panteleev


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