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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Community to support Ukraine and help to stop
 Russian agression
From: Danack@basereality.com (Dan Ackroyd)

Hi Victor,

I have strong feelings about the war and that people should be taking
whatever personal action they can (check my pinned tweet, @MrDanack),
but:

i) PHP Internals is for discussion of PHP internals.

ii) We have contributors on both sides of the conflict. There are also
many other causes that people can or should be supporting. Having
conversations about what position the PHP project should take for
reach of those causes is a conversation that takes away time + energy
from PHP.

iii) Adding flags help when issues are little known or obscure, but
aren't useful when a cause is well known. Except maybe make people
feel a little bit better about "having done something".

It possible for projects many fewer contributors than PHP does to
"speak with a single voice". E.g. there appear to be 3 main
contributors to JUnit. But projects the size of PHP need to either
stay apolitical or to have a strong executive team that can make
decisions on behalf of the project.

I do urge everyone to take effective action that they can personally
do themselves, but the suggestion is not likely to help, and is likely
to turn a shouting match very quickly.

cheers
Dan
Ack