Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:117128 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 83110 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2022 18:12:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2022 18:12:27 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CE41804C3 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2022 11:32:15 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-wm1-f42.google.com (mail-wm1-f42.google.com [209.85.128.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2022 11:32:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wm1-f42.google.com with SMTP id w13so13899705wmi.2 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2022 11:32:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject:content-language:to :references:from:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9JAeYOge1eeXCw7kvta22Kz4Qh4fNpbToK9/nBO85LM=; b=feqSudb8JPqy7vUcz96fkkHpq8mrAm2ZAKyec99E3RSHLPQDi2O0cidninuM51aZuV yUI7zqcoMbP/rlCK+B0rWV2TdnsFYVvMPiZnoXSHmRvjfad2Zy51NS0jBfKMDZsDndvo ZqukajRB3kY4IbYmXnUypfwUwj+jbiiYNAtOAwgeNbFwGE4CmqciAcjF6jedqGpVQL0e rmPcowJPeBH4mVLjJ+FtIpWK+7loYUSCQPBML4CZK4PYg7P08azimgLNGfv1u+eW6cZt MXbROV0EAccBszrUF3oUtVINKZd5ONfIv6EJYVJZ1mXxrgSRILrTzmHzwEVy0AFUeTja BN1w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject :content-language:to:references:from:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9JAeYOge1eeXCw7kvta22Kz4Qh4fNpbToK9/nBO85LM=; b=uXWbZ/+jX7vAG6mpO7xT0WSXBF2umU/vhLl3lvnddhUpziD5GYNey9YrlSls3URVCA iJ47claVNdL4ojjIOcrPMQOP3FEnEVmhqFiJgzqWcThTK5tGQSmXf1P5M+HcNmiz/y0L QxaAzFInjZktWHP1fMv67YAaX2AagGoHCGiOPQt3gLuFmuEDPmPqfMHB6b+zCHagv1Vr zut/zd2TdJUulszuBSR2uQrT6P+HRyQtsYgajLaXym8pryIyinZPTDfTkNvh94kXfueG 07eBj6OtZmJhguTuxIsPvRg9nBlvoK0wMsgNgSah6KxE8SuxlNTLNepssNuZHdMXC4K2 fFuQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531hsV+wWicZK7EddS6n/Czt5JVBmGUXCebNeWM9Za7y5MkA7Hzo wkQbmhaLOpv2QVNVqAPu00+S0yAx9Yk/gg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxAKkGe/roj0quuRcCZdD2teMBfDJJieKPF6IbdBr+rgQEiiraJoAj7nNSbx3gEqjNyrXpQOA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:3b02:b0:37c:91fa:c9d3 with SMTP id m2-20020a05600c3b0200b0037c91fac9d3mr8588748wms.70.1645644733461; Wed, 23 Feb 2022 11:32:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.22] (cpc104104-brig22-2-0-cust548.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [82.10.58.37]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 8-20020a05600c26c800b0037bec3c03c9sm9651482wmv.2.2022.02.23.11.32.12 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 23 Feb 2022 11:32:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8a5152fc-9ba5-7921-6a08-d9246ec21f57@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 19:32:10 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.6.1 Content-Language: en-GB To: internals@lists.php.net References: <620eda0f.1c69fb81.d2cb1.0846SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <5efecaef-a024-3c61-e12e-ffc342956718@gmail.com> <6214c40e.1c69fb81.73261.05d3SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <0ce34a07-3ad7-7158-d914-c18f3720ff9d@gmx.de> <6216800e.1c69fb81.cbcd2.4644SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <6216800e.1c69fb81.cbcd2.4644SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Undefined Variable Error Promotion From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Tommins) On 23/02/2022 18:42, Mark Randall wrote: > It may be that in 8.2 if this RFC passes that message will change to > include "This will throw an error in PHP 9" I think that wording change should be part of the proposed change in the RFC. Otherwise, a lot of people simply won't know the decision to remove it has been made and will be surprised when 9.0 comes around. I used a similar approach in https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecate-bareword-strings because I wanted the visibility of E_WARNING but the clear mention of deprecation. Regards, -- Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]