Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:116838 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 2822 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2022 17:27:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 6 Jan 2022 17:27:14 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E41A180540 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2022 10:35:00 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,MISSING_HEADERS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-wr1-f54.google.com (mail-wr1-f54.google.com [209.85.221.54]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2022 10:34:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wr1-f54.google.com with SMTP id k18so6496650wrg.11 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2022 10:34:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=date:from:cc:subject:user-agent:in-reply-to:references:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=T8pGrDd+jgsVIeDBPyTxExN1TWi0pJdsfFaq0vL059I=; b=l+t0Sx1QQPmy1u4sRF6vLMPoAL2w/dgyYt1tJOm81SK6NwMEAfjjhXAqtaRuVORRRR urbJl+aKA89ud+PnLormF6G5V0fAAoSWfqhDm7maL8X0CKK9TXABmPERvGjkGkfDFJcD MMAOdqey8PdPLZVxv1IIOTPn1t8g6A9YgOtnSYdjIXyN58ja1cTTWbg0IJ9Vf7rau7rl Zh29GeZBDrBFY6MEaovaAUxZ9oShtzhjvFYi4gnchAtwNbNVMqlgO2QSuDyjFSRHHG5F btSb8UwsEoDU4oSRxs3QrAWrr+uthaIov7d3HncQJqdGeoYqUHYzTenVYVop6RvBH2x9 mtTw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:cc:subject:user-agent:in-reply-to :references:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=T8pGrDd+jgsVIeDBPyTxExN1TWi0pJdsfFaq0vL059I=; b=ULXsQZUr0pD7b4GM/N1mDpCNoSmn5vd2pQ37QxzyDOBo/fSD0qHi2WmnxNryt+Z+RH US4jFCzX1Eq3u4vxmrYiiURq/T6mqg4jixQLYV9UHeycF6eZ9DXpyPJ3pOlE3qBZLRAy K3oDRXf4t+BH725cDiS4bGKP7LfNUVumYzgX3Jd4nxphygxd+rEb84CqDlBU98fcFvXp asfeNJlXT4soI4btHH+tFQYHI6KYQgaoW1xBcpir2cGLRtbUd6ZOVlqLRcJxczR6Ca3Y J/eZCs0nXH9fTnz9VSbQ8NuphKWYugIWS3lX2BSUxHBevss1zCA6deKejhFBdM30PLPt 07og== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533RZuGyUI+KIvGx3vghrEdqqlW54obcCm45K1Z92NSmp1kkggRd FuN8BNL8AdOeJ+VllU9WdTUuPAIwtCs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw2JWeaqqPnpND/E+5g5WA9hQPk6wrqNsqwOikwxMVJNXX/swFmPhreLdeG85Co1QgnkQHbZg== X-Received: by 2002:adf:e44f:: with SMTP id t15mr2847198wrm.173.1641494098709; Thu, 06 Jan 2022 10:34:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cpc104104-brig22-2-0-cust548.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [82.10.58.37]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g9sm2791823wmq.22.2022.01.06.10.34.57 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Jan 2022 10:34:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2022 18:34:55 +0000 CC: PHP internals User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <1641335738.195767637@f174.i.mail.ru> <5a4aebf8-e592-4517-8930-d18b112ef1fd@www.fastmail.com> <5a99809d-afda-546c-5a11-a4f0f821aa37@korulczyk.pl> Message-ID: <5E39AEF2-453E-49D5-B58E-3C2C2AD5F76F@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Trait expects interface From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Tommins) On 6 January 2022 18:03:04 GMT, Chase Peeler wrot= e: >I think most people see the tools as black boxes to make THEIR lives >easier=2E They aren't concerned about whether it's added complexity to th= e >tool itself=2E Just to be clear, my comments were a response to an earlier message that e= xplicitly talked about it being easier for the tools: > It should also make it easier for SCA tools to understand the code I understand that that's not *your* opinion, and mostly agree with what yo= u've said, but you're answering a different question=2E Regards, --=20 Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]