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You are right on the first point, but it is not a requirement for php-src to be managed by anything other than CMake to maintain phpize functionality for existing 3rd party software making use of it. From a quick look, I can tell that it just copies some files that can be generated/configured by CMake if necessary. Just so we are in the clear, I'm purposefully abstaining from a deep dive into php-src's build tooling, because I would really like the video that I have in mind to be genuine. I had the idea of making a video about this thanks to Andreas Kling's SerenityOS videos and he follows a similar process.