Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:116503 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47905 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2021 08:50:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2021 08:50:18 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF34180507 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 01:47:27 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,HTML_MESSAGE, NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-pj1-f41.google.com (mail-pj1-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 01:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pj1-f41.google.com with SMTP id p18-20020a17090ad31200b001a78bb52876so7365476pju.3 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 01:47:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wikimedia.org; s=google; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=Yv/JvT14TjxZcJTn2OtUDSR/Z4QJHddb456iGZIOCyA=; b=AhsAc7eYiZ85Uh+UTqDgzOOfsVcmQqKeoToLW5+TGmn1cZU8KANfnlrwfA8PWLsgen hhUp+gt7RCgIeuA1C6bwNf/EtSyA0EqmV6xDsFoYBgNQmpZN+FY7djNSF2L+kPlh5MAH Lcx2bjJ2c8KoVobmRiX7nZA15PMuH+nD7hVhY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=Yv/JvT14TjxZcJTn2OtUDSR/Z4QJHddb456iGZIOCyA=; b=LSTpROlk4WG4k/UBD1X18pI2uGalEFFdp1NaNcgcF7KLSbTjMacCVp4FZlPSaDdx8s pHsZJL5LgJ4h0ZU8UBy820an22jxWM1c6Zt/gjTkR+tNxRXm14yF/lrtemPp1enRQAot qqZHBhrSQy17ZtQGiBsrTc5av8t07PcVXpCayOqZJY2tDgBfKqbOKjRVDKfBI6SHPImy 13UtvZFS7jtOh+/Hwt8NLd0ptBNDOWGWa/Ex4yInx1A5JYN6LBp95lQevQAf+y8oCYj2 RY1UqEiUAfaFuYhcnMl4FzJHb7hkuAkfbxIiDboy1w8wHL9V9FyNgI1DkaGtPULev3GQ Pskg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531btws9HkebgI9Qtowev3U8AIvmgmto8CH1+oSJ+DvDqdgLHhxA BIT1OpTJishusnHdSjyYWyFXnpIpvfI/tw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy9/SbokRxjrBxVvaM+Xm0tp2BsVPRqZVyaa3zqtArMRBI74MDPPHkN5pTnHaIxGJmXOrfj+A== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:e804:b0:142:1c0b:c2a6 with SMTP id u4-20020a170902e80400b001421c0bc2a6mr26882737plg.23.1637833645890; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 01:47:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.45] (124-168-155-31.dyn.iinet.net.au. [124.168.155.31]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i198sm2587871pfe.81.2021.11.25.01.47.24 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Nov 2021 01:47:25 -0800 (PST) To: Nicolas Grekas Cc: Internals Mailing List References: <757fcf17-4d8b-0eee-8226-e88705d92795@wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <59feb482-2dec-3fdc-1104-5a47cb627634@wikimedia.org> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 20:47:21 +1100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D272894F8AABB6F398725F48" Content-Language: en-US Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Locale-independent case conversion From: tstarling@wikimedia.org (Tim Starling) --------------D272894F8AABB6F398725F48 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 25/11/21 7:55 pm, Nicolas Grekas wrote: > > I voted yes because I want to see this happen but I raised a point > in https://externals.io/message/116141#116259 > and didn't get an answer: > > Despite their name, I never used natcase functions for natural > language > processing. I use them eg to sort lists of files in a directory, > to account > for numbers mainly. But that's not what I would call natural > language > processing. I'm not aware of anyone using them for that > actually. I'm > wondering if it's a good idea to postpone migrating them to an > hypothetical > future as to me, the whole reasoning of the RFC applies to them. > > > I wish the strnatcasecmp() and natcasesort() function, but also the > SORT_NATURAL flag were also covered by this RFC. > Is that possible? Would it make sense? I'm not going to migrate those functions at this time. It's just a project scope decision. -- Tim Starling --------------D272894F8AABB6F398725F48--