Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:116499 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39390 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2021 07:58:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2021 07:58:40 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF45718037F for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 00:55:49 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-ed1-f49.google.com (mail-ed1-f49.google.com [209.85.208.49]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 00:55:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ed1-f49.google.com with SMTP id w1so22477755edc.6 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 00:55:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Pa5PVmOqfIUfN5xFmnN32WJDsLcRwHacjq3oV19Q4G8=; b=FNkFkWphd3OFQ7rCFFmJfYaUMcbcjB2N8LqZzkc60wJi+C9FTFfok4OsypReRet2Us qzy38hrUAr67mX2OjHvFlnZ0t+Hy0m9pyoHBFWM584LLGXRcl2+xEltIc19L1nYUChSF z3Zw4Mm35HFKWavIn6Uit/2QwUttGCB3WEN5XCTSt/sIxkHqrKSQB12VA7yCU7EqitS0 aSBkFxv/H1x7fxZ5859LP5BK91I85ZWjA10D4xveV0Xyp1lDQtBMKxZGzk6Vtn04la3y KCxhSvypMwYsDBDLIsSvW+0nEjgSWzy34HRKkSG+RfHwhWpfU+lCGDd+yxxlEweDchzM TfUQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Pa5PVmOqfIUfN5xFmnN32WJDsLcRwHacjq3oV19Q4G8=; b=jDib0aOAkp1P13lV1B65OWaU8/vMSiBUtt2HdN20qVSOaFLvwbh4nrJetVDyWsk6xZ GtQisL25E14LNbMV3YtHx+UJPTa41wlDubHq/9erL1Pj029H/nnQ3VG/oUKV7bay8M+E UsIwfyMktJhCwAzAl5STq8i436c0JL7vjKD17DIIlF9XkAOWvgz+riyp3p0aeSzljzhz KfdQcANLtFDOsO9G9ne1PNV6xRNDB4XgLQ1k2Q11KER168VDM1eEhwpbaAY/Pdf21re2 rq3oFRdeqrlAUgUGyhuQTCsVlmmgoMJOBljLH38+mcFokAWVChHlPmDJFDQTaL+Jqiuy Rj4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531t/4rWatlbzT31VeSSci2skFbJwRTdItU+H1Xkr2PyiiJKXtpz IeOEpTLyfedo/nYcBHENmMYVApZ0KRBgA//rY56nOs/Am44= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy7Bt5f33NlmC2rmTNgEPS7hgxC4I/5r9xwaed9yHNBPqigUJ+cC14VI/SBAV4VzjbW6gZnYzj5Pft/rwx86QY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:2547:: with SMTP id l7mr34694313edb.301.1637830548286; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 00:55:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <757fcf17-4d8b-0eee-8226-e88705d92795@wikimedia.org> In-Reply-To: <757fcf17-4d8b-0eee-8226-e88705d92795@wikimedia.org> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 09:55:36 +0100 Message-ID: To: Tim Starling Cc: Internals Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000008707305d199243c" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Locale-independent case conversion From: nicolas.grekas+php@gmail.com (Nicolas Grekas) --00000000000008707305d199243c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le jeu. 25 nov. 2021 =C3=A0 06:05, Tim Starling a =C3=A9crit : > Voting is now open for my RFC on locale-independent case conversion. > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/strtolower-ascii > > Voting will close in two weeks, on 2021-12-09. > Hi Tim, I voted yes because I want to see this happen but I raised a point in https://externals.io/message/116141#116259 and didn't get an answer: Despite their name, I never used natcase functions for natural language > processing. I use them eg to sort lists of files in a directory, to accou= nt > for numbers mainly. But that's not what I would call natural language > processing. I'm not aware of anyone using them for that actually. I'm > wondering if it's a good idea to postpone migrating them to an hypothetic= al > future as to me, the whole reasoning of the RFC applies to them. > I wish the strnatcasecmp() and natcasesort() function, but also the SORT_NATURAL flag were also covered by this RFC. Is that possible? Would it make sense? Nicolas --00000000000008707305d199243c--