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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 16:29:45 -0800
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To: Sara Golemon <pollita@php.net>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Deprecate dynamic properties
From: tobias.nyholm@gmail.com (Tobias Nyholm)

Thank you Sara!
I could not agree more with you. I think this answers to most tweets and =
messages that I=E2=80=99ve seen the past few weeks.=20

// Tobias

> On 16 Nov 2021, at 14:20, Sara Golemon <pollita@php.net> wrote:
>=20
> Serious questions for all the folks worried that this is some kind of =
death
> nail for PHP.
>=20
> 1. Do you have code you're responsible for which uses dynamic =
properties so
> broadly that adding this attribute is a burden?
> 2. Do you know of real code in widespread use which uses dynamic =
properties
> so broadly that adding this attribute is a burden?
>=20
> All I see being bandied about are hypotheticals.  So here's my =
answers: In
> my entire career (which granted, is only about half actually written =
IN
> php) I can point to exactly one class* which makes use of dynamic =
props and
> it would take me a hot minute to add the attribute and commit it to =
the
> repo (note: This code base is running on 5.x, so it doesn't need it, =
but it
> can handle the attribute all the same).  I don't consider that hot =
minute
> to be problematic.
>=20
> For those wondering what's the point: Making the engine better is the
> point.  We won't see the payoff in 8.2, or even 9.0, but by 10.0 we =
should
> be able to be in a better place and have a better engine out of it.
>=20
> -Sara
>=20
> * Not counting uses of stdClass which is going to implicitly have this
> attribute.