Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:116409 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 91545 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2021 11:28:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2021 11:28:04 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76EC18053F for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 04:23:00 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-oi1-f176.google.com (mail-oi1-f176.google.com [209.85.167.176]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 04:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi1-f176.google.com with SMTP id s139so41976645oie.13 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 04:23:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ejLSsropZgBrgr8g3VIx7t/QpokK/p67TlYqEPcb+1M=; b=qSDeQkFfh9wcoXvJGR9RSeSVbNQ+i3Jsp4zgYZT1jyXA6F6u/ugFWHTNpQXk9Aparp sjLf1To9GkE4sPtwTfVHCQAXEon64qbCcXo3ijDdifdTYL4yFVn5kC+Fq3tTrEdSXkGg 5TN2OmwdSkdnsStvTWnKCr08/LaJYWdtmKrGIDl5NMoPW15BfIvme4ks88fmzAe5FRFC qpnRz7zExOQOzBANIVpMKuyrPiur1GPWCwYO4N/8aVQcLeETd8Fl35ZBGM0WuRIwOPI6 aIq9WOIRaSyz15s4aYTF16/AXSgl6isdGiG/DcT16Eiz/h1ELKhzOwM8YZ40EEPrrxr8 Y4rw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ejLSsropZgBrgr8g3VIx7t/QpokK/p67TlYqEPcb+1M=; b=j6UKXfJEwg0rKUBxw2czKcoT0ApUfLecwGyAKQ4W6xtY+JxEs9H7tVDXRHcytpQ4X2 8m4+7ul78W+bQSZVKsBScIB0Wo9OT0dM70RZx5a5FeemABoBw+8JCSkSYyqGrVj73AFa NFBeLlecoCkmcqfxlyG3paNAxHyLmvWNCTdcrEVfdMMX/w5RRpc+hM3afyUHP6s9SaDS iNfSLQ8kjslj3mt7VDTIXCe1BzpIHtGzQVm8+oDO191W6I++DDAdYQ1QojpOMvVSsChR I9YOruSI9cAhNf96oFMp3TA+cluxsRZfqQv2xcl3RK+CW6qYOoNFb3on0Dq8xu8Mp2rG FHXw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530J14sxnirb3eWBTd5TMtyBazkmYjNb7dthr/z8pGZhZC3hCzJW t3kVC6L6vbpsYezMAcsTXVCo5j4a0MBVlUpcWC8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzH9rloYPX5gP2cndOcqERywsRwOZvJ5myzgNveURtTJTOBZvpru+bQZuX3kC4pwuyVT1+ENIRzREa2F61ClmA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:5cd:: with SMTP id d13mr5717736oij.168.1637065379648; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 04:22:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 19:22:52 +0700 Message-ID: To: Lynn Cc: Matthew Brown , Nikita Popov , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Deprecate dynamic properties From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 4:11 PM Lynn wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 4:52 AM Pierre Joye wrote: >> >> >> My vote will change to yes as soon as the change is an opt-in instead of an >> opt-out for the 8.x lifetime. >> > > What is the point of this change if it's an opt-in? Projects that are still relying on dynamic properties today and "have no time" to fix them now, won't have time in 3 years either. Please let us have nice things today instead of years from now :) If it is an opt-in (like Larry proposes f.e.), you will have them today as well. Best, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org