Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:116403 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71938 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2021 08:17:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2021 08:17:09 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFD7180211 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 01:12:02 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-io1-f50.google.com (mail-io1-f50.google.com [209.85.166.50]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 01:11:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-io1-f50.google.com with SMTP id r8so25135832iog.7 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 01:11:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=9L2wqpbnpefQRYMY7kKHHfzBz5OZrOctwn4ocA4oQfw=; b=ZDTHo69VtBEV3lfiDngw/nuw9ki3nbm7Jq4xFHx5uNgrxAQGJS7MteVtNzE/G86RMo x+TDwKLmZFMqtbE41A1EbgWTpkcOR4LsuOI5Hcd7J4IXAAHOSvceEmx+1Hd9DFE+TCpL Rl5X6/1mB7UEuh1gVkhueeyHvzCzDFkDqwXrkUVOhGuOY6Nto+2evmY9MYB5DNEseOZQ xDi4jOs+gzAwiF4vrDp7u+S+fPWGcSLf85mkPil1zBGVXN8TH0brCPUw7HCBWzRUqfdz cYOUzHatF2ZUiNQ0OCURlFx9GH6xDkO2OU3juCyNwMn0e8uOlJup2SqxOL/A99iEsggo cRng== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=9L2wqpbnpefQRYMY7kKHHfzBz5OZrOctwn4ocA4oQfw=; b=Cmzujj6wm8ttZMAfUB22JloETy9hWKljpImZfZNGlGe9PZ6XCTKkwP6bjF4hEIocmk RzzhUJ52A8vNpXadgcVRQtu9UFZv2x6Gr2RZWwu9fE7BRJGqOEzLdEwnN78W9lp9Z94v K+yi1+8dfZAj7FySfhi1lNGLPkB0qxwVzYfDYsTTESS+StUfSbUrfoBABySH9hxl1Cnv 56NiDqWAuBoR6Qbjz3jVTFiohhFaL8M75rQS/63h/PmdcEcRAVOHsmK6iRIrh2b17enW V+3GOmmWkIjIYBnT+wIphKUwvqQHCNwXK3bcXNWjAkzqidtCCviecyB1Y//pTUOnO6ul ZpEA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532VxmpVajLmxAobDXJLLmobq/OG9L+lil0CNU9AOY7+2gZHLFW1 ApkGU3nygAlr6xyo6K6Xai9wvr+tzWtHVZVMwyI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxZnlvlR6XolNNvQrRH91yB0LhbWAQVqZ25REDnkypkHDPUa6MBasEAKB3VDspwzQwgXD+eOgRcyArqR5GilZc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6638:1695:: with SMTP id f21mr4272912jat.84.1637053918513; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 01:11:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:11:32 +0100 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Matthew Brown , Nikita Popov , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004a8ef705d0e45199" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Deprecate dynamic properties From: kjarli@gmail.com (Lynn) --0000000000004a8ef705d0e45199 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 4:52 AM Pierre Joye wrote: > > My vote will change to yes as soon as the change is an opt-in instead of an > opt-out for the 8.x lifetime. > > What is the point of this change if it's an opt-in? Projects that are still relying on dynamic properties today and "have no time" to fix them now, won't have time in 3 years either. Please let us have nice things today instead of years from now :) --0000000000004a8ef705d0e45199--