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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 17:31:53 -0500
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Deprecate dynamic properties
From: chasepeeler@gmail.com (Chase Peeler)

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On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 4:40 PM Matthew Brown <matthewmatthew@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 at 08:08, Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi internals,
> >
> > I've opened the vote on
> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecate_dynamic_properties. Voting will clos=
e
> > 2021-11-26.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Nikita
> >
>
> There are two things developers think about when releasing code:
>
> 1. does it work for me
> 2. does it work for everyone else
>
> With its support for runtime type hints and other similar checks, PHP doe=
s
> a reasonably good job of aligning those two =E2=80=94 what works for me _=
generally_
> works for everyone else, too.
>
> Using dynamic properties is one of the areas where "works for me" and
> "works for everyone else" can diverge. Some people use static analysis to
> keep track of those divergences, but if PHP _can_ warn people they're doi=
ng
> a probably-dumb thing, I think it should.
>
>
Warning someone is very different than not allowing it


> I encourage people to vote "yes" on this, if you want PHP to be better at
> preventing people from shooting themselves in the foot.


What if I want a language where people can shoot themselves in the foot
because the flexibility it offers is what makes it great



> I know there are
> valid uses for this, but it's nevertheless a surprising feature, and not
> one that delights many PHP developers.


Why is this surprising? It's been available since classes were introduced
to PHP.


> Making it attribute-only from 9.0
> onwards seems incredibly sensible.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Matt
>


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