Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:116380 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 4500 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2021 16:11:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2021 16:11:30 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A182C180087 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 09:06:14 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-wr1-f42.google.com (mail-wr1-f42.google.com [209.85.221.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 09:06:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wr1-f42.google.com with SMTP id b12so32153989wrh.4 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 09:06:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject:content-language:to :references:from:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=02fvRNYtGlhQmABVHenQpBrSS2l/yit/7tCC6UIVbSk=; b=SYdDniPvSH5MJCIcuE7/hYhnvcgTpqiy5VGlDlGlNVSvZvzyFLMCZXFiJ5lUSGWI9u jxqtvxl2K3cuNl58SLhAjSHbzF37lQvjJ39bppLgWaDpdNFIoS/M7QEr9VvxjRIDG4pD shJhpxNvfsYxSrXces5BiqmNQgJpNIY5g4vZe9Ds/0LaMmIbGoUZY5/kThQgjaOFqhLU 6m8TfwJJ4MWoOw9Enu4MQiZj8LsAfGMGxPfWedIOwdvk4CyuZeWc7QFG1riZXAAbs/YK QQI0xmJqvgierH/WqBg64ExV7hr4U8WuN3JXA+D7fIcqG4SAs5imy7f73W3+mOLZ2UE8 7sSQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject :content-language:to:references:from:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=02fvRNYtGlhQmABVHenQpBrSS2l/yit/7tCC6UIVbSk=; b=Us3H/qOVsu3YfdhRinjMxBo/g+qH3HJBC7U4Jz3oQJso/eqE8Kt3ukdx99t5b6hJhV tsUibM7XnL6XP3DOggypvHuELVPM9i51GwU/1C1uXln+o0bVpBmmS+iUKQFJtHuM22v6 fza9iaWX7siN9butg2FGv3qMNx/DoI04zjkUnejR570KLr8I3I9FDg5Wu2hAKIJwe7Rg Ae3sHMYt+BFzOMTxg9zafij3dRE73JzdOEsNKnTHTCClBjq7etp/SFw3EC8ql9a52Ah6 AYkN8GuEv8j3nJyPQqsnLlvUz6QmHWp6+09hrRiIso62wdiXz+fqlj0DLvfBlvKKM6rH NF7w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532bzxzjzfxUx0MYsx+Y1KcN370sPn6tko0ecnvZnYcUSAgZGQqM EPDc7HZJeZCXVK9+xM1+Mhstfuw00ybLzg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx8exKFpGysGv0CMtasfUTAaItMlJn/+In+gpW4JSckSvDXBk0iGqRlwPgOse9bBvbx0Ydg2Q== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:6dc3:: with SMTP id d3mr631840wrz.159.1636995972842; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 09:06:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.22] (cpc104104-brig22-2-0-cust548.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [82.10.58.37]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id k37sm16295310wms.21.2021.11.15.09.06.12 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Nov 2021 09:06:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54427380-981f-fed7-3a0c-a8010b8a0d97@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 17:06:11 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.3.0 Content-Language: en-GB To: internals@lists.php.net References: <7988332.T7Z3S40VBb@come-prox15amd> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Tommins) On 15/11/2021 14:49, Deleu wrote: > I had already decided to spend time and effort learning about the > project and then having to learn about their ticketing system and git > repository is just unnecessary extra work. In any project above a handful of developers, learning the conventions and expectations of the community is always going to be far more complicated than learning how to use the actual tools in question. We should definitely choose a tool that is *easy to use*, and easy to authenticate on (but not so easy it fills up with spam, like the current one), but saying that developers will struggle to use anything other than the One True Website is frankly insulting to the intelligence of the average developer. Regards, -- Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]