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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 10:55:45 -0600
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues
From: neclimdul@gmail.com (James Gilliland)

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On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 8:49 AM Deleu <deleugyn@gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> >
> > I would like to suggest gitlab.com, which does provide hosting for free
> > for opensource projects: https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/open-source=
/
> > Anyone with a github account can use it to log in.
> > It should be easy to migrate to any other gitlab instance if needed.
> There
> > are even plans to one day have federation over gitlab instances. Not
> > anytime soon, but likely sooner than github which is only hosted by
> > Microsoft.
> >
> > C=C3=B4me
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> Gitlab is not where the wide PHP Community is located. Composer,
> widely-used and adopted packages, frameworks, PSRs, PHP itself and PHP Do=
cs
> are all hosted on GitHub. Choosing something else increases the barrier f=
or
> newcomers to become contributors. I speak from experience that when I tri=
ed
> to contribute to Alpine Linux, one of the major turn off was GitLab
> hosting. I had already decided to spend time and effort learning about th=
e
> project and then having to learn about their ticketing system and git
> repository is just unnecessary extra work.
>
> PHP should not distance itself from its user base.
>
>
Drupal Is currently in the process of migrating to a self hosted Gitlab
instance. For some of the reasons highlighted by Derick but also because
Github's issues and collaboration can be pretty terrible. There's hints of
issue improvements on the horizon but we'll see. Gitlab however has been
great in collaborating with us in addressing issues and collaborating on
supporting our credit system.

My impression is that Gnome switched because of the level of support and
interest in Open Source communities so I wouldn't  write them off without
taking a look.

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