Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:116346 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 91498 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2021 15:47:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2021 15:47:55 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F91D180384 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 08:42:20 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-wr1-f43.google.com (mail-wr1-f43.google.com [209.85.221.43]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 08:42:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wr1-f43.google.com with SMTP id r8so25627147wra.7 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 08:42:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject:content-language:to :references:from:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=P9ZcBw798klMY8QAb8Q/pfmON+wa072C9IQgOLBeSsU=; b=O/bSXE94N2h107liK4TpCXc+8TVXny5/JZzPtbLL0xdZSatineQYu/wCSobeAm9L1M eBS9wM3xH+uuDpRy0ooJ+FGJfQx0209Zw2lEijkGO7VCQyxPCLYJHprH6C4ueAxmE1oY 4d1qAfeiVCxRInxF2IERKy6vuYZQ0/ZD7hJnBnhG8+xVVKIj4kn6JQIv9GuCI0imQHTP 7Doit5uQpR6ITdJnNGiTANh1xnowg4c+vKnh5vUnVfI35WtmTVfbEkL1o4tY18gtuwng eVQdavaLSJcayeH3RMgRYP0tCog43Q5Byq6qAT767F1GEIP9LCDuDwSnz29sWe2MoxIA g+3g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject :content-language:to:references:from:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=P9ZcBw798klMY8QAb8Q/pfmON+wa072C9IQgOLBeSsU=; b=hPeLF3OXaI2KO4AP4OA1YGnFlWJlSn0cEvFR5pSk6rB0enQU8M7xL1I9rIxNFpZ/bE wTFEXObcgFRt0M4JCOlj7sR9yIFyVXNujJ47RD2rPjT+dtyO/kgsCl6H2jK1vUUaFBuL eveDCp7STqiOqeXqmPZl6LOMiozVzlRNhlwfi+KWyi194X9U5ttZn7ehlOvvISMYgc4z nVyiOtyYWJkuMDcnWaOhyShSK3ClquTsVlnZvYvfEyAaAc8KO+htzB7pNnSOyJMxlaZC ShN3ZDQTQPzN60GHCX/Q/N0SwPNVxvlsoueASfFa6J8++AyxiyoFf+jDPq+OWoogjyjI fw7A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532PDMPMlLDjfhNo1kVaWCBaOZyLbLx1IM+lLoU8FMLbUuSdF1Mh PknA9c90WhZ+h/w5/9U5ZVs+Yh91OW9ENQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxYd+RA2xpqyxI57UjbT4/Z3iE0m5fYqf+xhV9PWVVgLvqrMJAAUdlOBMWzAiG41Zma+WpXXw== X-Received: by 2002:adf:d091:: with SMTP id y17mr38139594wrh.418.1636908135819; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 08:42:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.22] (cpc104104-brig22-2-0-cust548.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [82.10.58.37]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id k187sm12890512wme.0.2021.11.14.08.42.14 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Nov 2021 08:42:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 16:42:14 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.3.0 Content-Language: en-GB To: internals@lists.php.net References: <0A40B090-43E3-484F-B67F-175C3B8F7CD6@php.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Deprecate dynamic properties From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Tommins) On 14/11/2021 11:48, Pierre Joye wrote: > Also I do see it as a kind of strict mode addition and the depreciation as > well could be strict mode only. A quick reminder that PHP has no "strict mode". It has a "strict_types" declaration, which is probably misnamed, and should be something like "scalar_types=error" vs "scalar_types=coerce". Suggestions to add a more general "two modes for the whole language" approach have generally gone down in flames. Suggestions to add other declarations tend to run into discussions of namespace-scoped declares / project configuration / etc Regards, -- Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]