Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:116311 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60297 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2021 07:42:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2021 07:42:01 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79931804DB for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2021 00:35:25 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-ed1-f45.google.com (mail-ed1-f45.google.com [209.85.208.45]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2021 00:35:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ed1-f45.google.com with SMTP id ee33so7372126edb.8 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2021 00:35:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=tKepAhu173WMRXg8eHA/GAoRGxjX7Ys0hSCtJQK+irs=; b=bxsbZsCst8sZqMzPanTYO2IEoxefu3pkIIISrdarsw+lGtkvnZTSEGWf9NmDnZtqOk U07MSI7xJkSF5o6FUELo3EskIUTTXXGf5xRX+jajf3qg1cYFtGe7Zbi9UFwsTV+n0ykw acpfi4Z+aMJEijhO5NncMWLoUlaOcfi350UvIIAM32wqEEulHH7GCV4NL/7ADIv4eAYQ nQlPAOLcAj4iFgbXtHLMjD65uZHoNWg+1Gi9SRJrFdWvIHyPYSgQXeY6PtQge7tWG6GJ j2F4keHoqsEGS2XEKeN5ENnFiDJ3e07X70xlPM3KovhI6iIKZ9d76ukRWE63pGaT0k4G +sQw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tKepAhu173WMRXg8eHA/GAoRGxjX7Ys0hSCtJQK+irs=; b=CSCdtCYrjZHuExZVeva0lVxzkjM1/PrH/Az6ii/W1mbYbc0sC14gHY2uU5yWG0SJDD +mAOvQYJ1BrBHgixHEht0T8UNe38FRL5ZKsZN/iRr7Wr93ZJ7HMZ+dFVZo37wekkj4ne QhPOrRQ9EvXM9Fp+E6XUipWuJl6fJJKu69o4P0mZ96kqjNZ2Z0tArNB+hfA0z1lGBjwL N9s0F5UNaHDZQx735aN38GnhsdsgxGwMwaB2iXqJZ13GKdzc+00LAs4M4xbgJkiP/ic8 FVmNteSLaam5tbqUbcYih/EjadABcQ8UG1bC4Kyad/oE0oABEuWLY/qk6HTEv9VXpdcM Q8tA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533/TlVYzZlzvmtG+ORlrqmt8vhVW/biH+95TLxnQq2ekWAEl1bM 657T6xMNqD5fGvHtH+/dhRfDZg5FXebHJcw/Nzupn0G9 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxFh7fr7/igIHaYcEQ6C0qOvRl2pxz1bOfIuhu8buEyin9hslSMUVpiyahhqQ1E3VF1Sis2lQO5Q9U+whGI3J4= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:9459:: with SMTP id z25mr18755589ejx.331.1636533323974; Wed, 10 Nov 2021 00:35:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 09:35:07 +0100 Message-ID: To: Tim Starling , Dmitry Stogov Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000070675a05d06b1b6f" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] VM kinds From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --00000000000070675a05d06b1b6f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 8:13 AM Tim Starling wrote: > What are VM kinds for? Are they just a prototyping tool to allow > different implementation strategies to be benchmarked? Or are they > permanent? Does anyone use them? > > I ask because I'm working on a VM bug, and non-default VM kinds make > already complex code even more complex and harder to edit. > > -- Tim Starling > I don't think anyone uses them, and the GOTO/SWITCH VMs receive little testing in practice (we don't use them in CI), and I believe they're not supported by the JIT either. Personally, I would be fine with simply dropping them, as they do add additional maintenance burden without any apparent benefit. Maybe Dmitry has some thoughts on this. Regards, Nikita --00000000000070675a05d06b1b6f--