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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Add `final class Vector` to PHP
From: tysonandre775@hotmail.com (tyson andre)

Hi Peter Bowyer,=0A=
=0A=
> > > To echo Pierre, a Vector needs to be of a single guaranteed type.=0A=
> > > Yes, this gets us back to the generics conversation again, but I pres=
ume=0A=
> > (perhaps naively?) there are ways to address this question without gett=
ing=0A=
> > into full-blown generics.=0A=
> >=0A=
> > Yep, as you said, this type is mixed, just like the SplFixedArray,=0A=
> > ArrayObject, values of SplObjectStorage/WeakMap, etc.=0A=
> >=0A=
> =0A=
> Please rename your proposal as the use of the term "Vector" is confusing=
=0A=
> for people who use them in other languages. Much of the discussion so far=
=0A=
> has been around whether it's a Vector or what it should be; changing the=
=0A=
> proposed name will allow the discussion to focus on what you're proposing=
=0A=
> to add, not what others (myself included) would like to see added to PHP =
:)=0A=
=0A=
Many of php's names are based on the naming choices in libraries made in C/=
C++.=0A=
So using https://cplusplus.com/reference/vector/vector/ for my RFC https://=
wiki.php.net/rfc/vector=0A=
seems like the most natural naming choice,=0A=
and would make it easier for people with backgrounds in that family of lang=
uages to find the functionality they're looking for.=0A=
PHP already has a SplStack, SplQueue, etc, like C++'s `stack`, `queue`, etc=
.=0A=
=0A=
I expect having a second `Stack` would be confusing and make it hard to rem=
ember which is the efficient one.=0A=
(Especially since stacks typically don't include specialized resizing metho=
ds)=0A=
=0A=
No alternative names have been suggested by you or them so far, as far as I=
 remember, and 2 of those responders seem to be saying they would vote no r=
egardless of the choice of name (for reasons such as wanting generic-like f=
unctionality, wanting immutability or built-in types, etc.).=0A=
PHP's already using List to refer to linked lists, and `array` in PHP alrea=
dy refers to a hash table (including in ArrayObject).=0A=
So I expect a stronger objection to alternative names that I can think of.=
=0A=
=0A=
Also, your comment is ambiguous. Are you saying that you personally object =
to the name,=0A=
or that you're fine with the name but think that the comments by Larry/Chri=
s/Pierre in this email thread are representative of voters.=0A=
=0A=
- People who wouldn't find the name surprising wouldn't bother writing an e=
mail to indicate a lack of surprise.=0A=
=0A=
Thanks,=0A=
-Tyson=0A=