Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:115927 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 17368 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2021 13:19:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2021 13:19:18 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9D51804C8 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2021 06:55:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-ej1-f46.google.com (mail-ej1-f46.google.com [209.85.218.46]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2021 06:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ej1-f46.google.com with SMTP id e21so12238792ejz.12 for ; Fri, 03 Sep 2021 06:55:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Ad4c1CIeVyzN0nbVXDybz+78NqkJtZ+hv2pPtla0Mwc=; b=WdW2VCGhEd4cl1YgpiW9QPnKb6AwdQENlxRLc8czYDUeq2d2IWUFnAzqbnCjto4740 BeXfm9xuE0aniV6AvH8X8zOUv0IbYfCH4/guMqIZh2sbRVIjuBPqyYEk6QKtOouqh8zY UKM0UuV7ag39zdByGyKpRwniSHIYdP13Yk9J9UWEQ3HswRx/qCacUuytEniHomTiWRkf VTrJgpYWJ5LAgUV++k249JBbmO3lT7cMRWAnIDbfebMzoC44IQRTi1Yquw07mMQ5AII0 9MA/l4QEgB5gdOUzQ4hlS1d7l85tDCDftw+wRdzl1jS5IfJ2xhigWeqSGx6eFcC3LW6/ yEcg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Ad4c1CIeVyzN0nbVXDybz+78NqkJtZ+hv2pPtla0Mwc=; b=VS/DBqxZAQ+6bMS3PfynoUJ7nM/hUqHug0vSNAXk05Un1lPLehdH+ql838S4MpNuy8 nO1hSmOvQ4o7mPg3sVXekpvgH01VRrb0zkH6VZGdexT+wKWv6nmxKsxJ2a02CwIFx3V/ IWB8sRsVZs9F8fTl0cIOPfjltqDDbhiMi8tyXFP0hVlupfF3PoDAPZhh1olpuAYMbSm7 vVCRm2m1iiPv7F8rzkdvQpb4z0QiNDqtV2PaNg+WAnwrwlYKiOj4+aBw0Fg6yNa75/U9 NApAZ9k16xyKVZPrLNXVecBRi6QdJJLpAln+F5TqrbTSFDzh+Mns387K3eOgZK7Bm88P mPYQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531298w/FXHwaFoQ2A3ks1NNXcE75ftjxTEslTw4s4QYl5V/BhWa bvcdFoGfzwDwUTgaaT8yh31B4skwMoAM4CiQ2XVz2iathSBVzw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyZq6YVOOp3hehRLMhC0j+rWUA4UhAyeYEDsAJHAqWn65pOwLpwmfsmBu6LWL017sid82FjGlTVg2tTyUCIfAg= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:3159:: with SMTP id e25mr4333091eje.549.1630677342542; Fri, 03 Sep 2021 06:55:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6921b613-d993-4e5b-82a7-60e3c9b3df38@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6921b613-d993-4e5b-82a7-60e3c9b3df38@www.fastmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 22:55:29 +0900 Message-ID: To: Larry Garfield , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bee01e05cb17a746" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Random Extension 3.0 From: zeriyoshi@gmail.com (Go Kudo) --000000000000bee01e05cb17a746 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you. > Why is the number generator a parent class rather than an interface? This is an implementation limitation. I could not find a way to define my own object handler in interface. As Nikita pointed out in a previous suggestion, the NumberGenerator now uses php_random_ng_algo_user to generate random numbers faster than before, even if it is a userland implementation. > You don't mention the CSPRNG functions at all. This is a mistake. I have corrected it. Thanks! I will keep an eye on it throughout the next week, and if there are no additional responses, I will start voting the week after next. Regards, Go Kudo 2021=E5=B9=B49=E6=9C=883=E6=97=A5(=E9=87=91) 3:26 Larry Garfield : > On Thu, Sep 2, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Go Kudo wrote: > > Hi Internals. > > > > Expanded from the previous RFC and changed it to an RFC that organizes > the > > whole PHP random number generator. Also, the target version has been > > changed to 8.2. > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/rng_extension > > https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/7453 > > > > Hopefully you will get some good responses. > > > > Regards, > > Go Kudo > > This looks pretty nice to my unskilled eye. Two questions. > > 1) Why is the number generator a parent class rather than an interface? > It seems like an interface target. And either way it needs more clarity > about how you'd write one for reals. (It returns an int, so does that me= an > getBytes() just derives from a series of ints?) > > 2) You don't mention the CSPRNG functions at all. Is there any intention > to fold those into this model as well, or to leave those as is? Or is th= e > Secure generator implementation intended to replace those? It's unclear > here. > > --Larry Garfield > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: https://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --000000000000bee01e05cb17a746--