Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:115780 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1115 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2021 20:34:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2021 20:34:19 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7B71804B3 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2021 14:08:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT, FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-io1-f41.google.com (mail-io1-f41.google.com [209.85.166.41]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2021 14:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io1-f41.google.com with SMTP id b10so11537954ioq.9 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2021 14:08:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=esUHc6o4mdD77aOxSb1Pm14P3IvHBsoMLlEkuzdLmaQ=; b=Wp46K1Mz6i0Fh9WWL1dbeMAqWS+DbnYHARpie8+PO5XicqrI4/N4+xdCAu7Zu8n5ZZ kx7Y6Ox08NgdjQM+ULFw5kwEYI/Eeyk6X403iV9/kRZOGN0F5ocUwYMGQTL1QKZp5A89 LbZOvu8BERGYwn8O64Av1tU5OCY38agS7Jw64wT/Gn5Wy0/T9CcHH2gMDhpdTCORoX5x 3pp9rRvHVQVQGtQ/Volxx9hmRTkQz5uCy1M/PZM5HR6Q3CQ3zPnFlryVzNeniDx4RuaC U3/VIGCo+rJFLYnzYuIL/bJqbe/t8nhO2A8vTrLzFYJZRTr732fm7pGy2KAAOZG57Q10 DQxw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=esUHc6o4mdD77aOxSb1Pm14P3IvHBsoMLlEkuzdLmaQ=; b=dmQj9bb7XcPu9M3BSuZuEDqz8r16M5J2NCmJboYIBVOMfhu2Z99E5Xhj5JgB3ldq6z 7SNQ2oJMj/bnoH/zJt+bCNfiEy4W7JQzXasNsquu4XXjeVG022WKjF3cS9fmbCADGlVt aooilDMevW4wMFGTrQ8e12yPi/iiqqhGx1Jgjxhh5kxJPHQfwensYdr/voToMNJ1MH0n h+0xBVnOBdjA0ykQxC6WSrIt6o7Pz2HGWu5dASq55t6iOZjfykgyfxTcEV4HnFA4i0m9 QCgxTsEE+tN5MY8ncW/N0RSCqAb+UkiRhfzMG1NcoVGyK+UM+7VOP6ZGIPIf0i7EMaQ6 LDmw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531PPp9jDIG3pCbxmgZw4pfHTEsd83EMsJq53UVuIi+vKCT5l73T NSD2KF4HcqSADlY0D0yWHvJp/iwnZkviTckKSZM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJylT5Q82dv7LDYiaWUdAcddfwEjhmdMvqlQpUfx1ZelyFSzPNskDEtVu/oQH+HLLre1Cu9bTmHy8/Gb8lxt4MY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6602:14a:: with SMTP id v10mr28126857iot.36.1629752887178; Mon, 23 Aug 2021 14:08:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 23:07:55 +0200 Message-ID: To: Deleu Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e9791405ca4069f1" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Guidelines for RFC post feature-freeze From: carusogabriel34@gmail.com (Gabriel Caruso) --000000000000e9791405ca4069f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, 23:07 Gabriel Caruso, wrote: > On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, 22:49 Deleu, wrote: > >> Hello everyone! >> >> We recently had the Nullable Intersection Types RFC process in an >> unconventional way starting a new RFC post feature freeze. If memory >> serves >> me right, another similar incident happened with the Attributes RFC whic= h >> had a syntax that could not be implemented without a secondary RFC [1] a= nd >> went through a secondary RFC which proposed a different syntax [2]. >> >> [1] https://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaced_names_as_token >> [2] https://wiki.php.net/rfc/attributes_v2 >> >> I would like to gather opinion on a potential Policy RFC that would defi= ne >> some guidelines for such a process. As Nikita pointed out [3], the abili= ty >> to refine new features is both important for the developer and >> undocumented >> for the PHP Project. >> >> In order to not be empty-handed, I started a gist that can be seen as th= e >> starting point for this discussion, available at >> https://gist.github.com/deleugpn/9d0e285f13f0b4fdcfc1d650b20c3105. >> >> Generally speaking, I'm first looking for feedback on whether this is >> something that deserves attention and an RFC or is it so rare that it's >> fine to leave it unchanged. If there is interest in moving forward, I >> would >> then also be interested in suggestions on things that should be >> included/excluded in the RFC. >> >> Marco Aur=C3=A9lio Deleu > > >> >> Thank you for being this one up, and yes: we should be a little bit more >> strict with stuff coming in, post feature freeze period! > > Bringing*, writing is difficult. > In PHP 8.0, Sara and I had the same problem :( > --000000000000e9791405ca4069f1--