Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:115779 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 99693 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2021 20:33:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2021 20:33:51 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BCD1804B3 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2021 14:07:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT, FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-il1-f173.google.com (mail-il1-f173.google.com [209.85.166.173]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2021 14:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-il1-f173.google.com with SMTP id h29so18449171ila.2 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2021 14:07:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=utDSNUHk6DcstQaNewcHNNb/9HeS+ndRmXHWyY0IXxY=; b=bvDaGBwu25yuScG+8ACC5mp/YX3PKX3A8+m0ppSjmmfKZUCY7a58sDMjT1MlfByFJM 2TCDPhY6SFHHLDpQ21SpbRu8aVk/yUHhFk7UbTprd+K3YuOo6pb0ymrdHFv1r8aVblHc /ibrueFllWpuf1qdrISfVSnVhsvT4Xmag89rNjhPJk9DPlt31vXcynAh4AvlbI2OMphQ hu4RrsGNuaKrjkE0zTvzl6jOlcSwJ38eQjJ+/z0yFKXQL8YMhabfwuYhwmymj+g3J/pA 1XDOJDYk7jG3I9O8OZ3JPSQCO9gkL32Di4o/3SLmOkh0MfxjHliJ3O0PnV4CcdvsdOTv Ov1A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=utDSNUHk6DcstQaNewcHNNb/9HeS+ndRmXHWyY0IXxY=; b=sz27KLNEpgQO/lZqC3qvgAUT/2epdctlhX/tHF9Ad74oEx6Dvn1cW4IVRsuoNJ6gYe OLag/huoQixrh9W/qQfMhY0zY/q7RjUX+wQGBaj7LIjzRfk4jQxtPGQAF0bPKsfcx0Ia zNMoBvu1TFnYmQuq2IihflW6lcACN1WInC5gsHrx6FbkhKpfPKgysZrt6YVgG8Ebfke4 yiN+DTIkYO+MDKN0tmcR/YCQmBV4ZALDOEyf0YylZI5RYfdMytvMbIV3xYaA7t6HYUFu ZMzOaAoIt1mDDLtkqoCXnMQOF5wnPe2X4CbDAFop6MHKrx1zrZ1inFr+6RxW7ZSacClm zm2A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532Fo3RBsnfNx9zdAXEezQ+MW1eL67PPPrxydhHV4xyc/cle9IDD w+M9qzoiIspSrP8xRK27dCaxIwlRwAhOf8chtDw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxCBYgOiaVE40oTjrlVzBc6v2F/N3wte4Zmfsc6A+rWwmt6LLo8iBI3x+p6SnRT3q0++5GTB6Mr9JwF5f5gSws= X-Received: by 2002:a92:190f:: with SMTP id 15mr23516805ilz.45.1629752854579; Mon, 23 Aug 2021 14:07:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 23:07:22 +0200 Message-ID: To: Deleu Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f80e6e05ca406776" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Guidelines for RFC post feature-freeze From: carusogabriel34@gmail.com (Gabriel Caruso) --000000000000f80e6e05ca406776 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 23 Aug 2021, 22:49 Deleu, wrote: > Hello everyone! > > We recently had the Nullable Intersection Types RFC process in an > unconventional way starting a new RFC post feature freeze. If memory serv= es > me right, another similar incident happened with the Attributes RFC which > had a syntax that could not be implemented without a secondary RFC [1] an= d > went through a secondary RFC which proposed a different syntax [2]. > > [1] https://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaced_names_as_token > [2] https://wiki.php.net/rfc/attributes_v2 > > I would like to gather opinion on a potential Policy RFC that would defin= e > some guidelines for such a process. As Nikita pointed out [3], the abilit= y > to refine new features is both important for the developer and undocument= ed > for the PHP Project. > > In order to not be empty-handed, I started a gist that can be seen as the > starting point for this discussion, available at > https://gist.github.com/deleugpn/9d0e285f13f0b4fdcfc1d650b20c3105. > > Generally speaking, I'm first looking for feedback on whether this is > something that deserves attention and an RFC or is it so rare that it's > fine to leave it unchanged. If there is interest in moving forward, I wou= ld > then also be interested in suggestions on things that should be > included/excluded in the RFC. > > Marco Aur=C3=A9lio Deleu > > Thank you for being this one up, and yes: we should be a little bit more > strict with stuff coming in, post feature freeze period! In PHP 8.0, Sara and I had the same problem :( --000000000000f80e6e05ca406776--