Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:115730 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13076 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2021 16:49:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 2021 16:49:55 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CF31804B3 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 2021 10:21:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-lj1-f174.google.com (mail-lj1-f174.google.com [209.85.208.174]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sat, 14 Aug 2021 10:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-f174.google.com with SMTP id y7so20625842ljp.3 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 2021 10:21:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Dn4Yo0uurzjjly601puIeRuK4O7ftLaV0q2CGAVLOSA=; b=TxFVwXieyNk5GBYCWuB8Zfri8A4t+Ne9gtdIlOD7gF2QyDt398HwMlZ1zLRhYsj77q DMVo3XMtNqTL6VEMSkb/tTJNw/SBT1Q1Z9ujE3G1vBYSznbEUsfgGGkXUf3DeCs5vJpl Sua92gQTJXzCx7IRq4P5UBflk4av+8v65dJDE0XRM2iIKfcP+DRKtYe7wMpuaPsvzVdB /TplWaniAV50FXJGRbtw2l1V4qbxU44XjF0dzs1VKoROmWvaidlvISNO5Iwt/IXkFF8H YqV0X6EBpmt0/F/CnYsOeZV6slFgGiQ4hlR+D4LV1d9T5b/d1rsABPwSUFa/vufvpwFh 5EtQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Dn4Yo0uurzjjly601puIeRuK4O7ftLaV0q2CGAVLOSA=; b=cTcJB4BmMyqg3of2a5WYttnnt5vIlGPZl26Nq6X6D0kznJIGX0x0hCuB9oac00e4fb insWDvG4eKTf/07Ku+qZRvrg9zEgZyejGoJDmFPOTAK5gIK6u+4wBcNNgTcUOvdzJCNs fRZkP0g0YJO+53tkn3puJ3/9UA6iUHkmE3vK5vNOdLuuQtQv3+DDXff4CY+yLMWogGda epbzZMmPsQTNpwF5t+MgEE6VP2umAPpNaE1oDSz+b2LqfFWxzZ62jqOUFoPJgLbTyuiO K72EaUovzcrPILNKELU1c9Sr+OHwAo7GmY8w1Pds/a0gmcY9cmxUPhGvxtVOe3tdO8C4 zaKg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5337Zv67wDL1Zw17JUDDn4Y7F2Z/nUucXE1kyNAQNEiOkL+QDGxZ IhtVZdLD1Lrfhwy+tzYTWl5fyWWzBz/VLhABw18= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzMTUZLinL6YyOJTG3XH9mvHYtdm840A5uqK+9+i3NtkJBay/1rlETnRf59Ib6W0SewiI43Nq3u5z3kC6kXedA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:891:: with SMTP id d17mr5987964ljq.24.1628961682848; Sat, 14 Aug 2021 10:21:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <39B2655D-3877-41C1-9112-E2772E44544D@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <39B2655D-3877-41C1-9112-E2772E44544D@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 10:21:18 -0700 Message-ID: To: Claude Pache Cc: Matthew Brown , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000075821d05c988327a" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Never For Argument Types From: jordan.ledoux@gmail.com (Jordan LeDoux) --00000000000075821d05c988327a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 10:12 AM Claude Pache wrote: > > If users of that interface would suddenly be *required* to specify a > parameter type, whereas previously they were *forbidden* to specify one, > except a meaningless `mixed`... it would be not nice and useless. > > Moreover, note that `mixed` was only introduced very recently, in 8.0: so > that, it would be impossible to implement `ArrayAccess` on code that work > both in 7.x and a future version with the updated interface. Not only would > it be not nice, but it would be positively harmful. > > Those are some excellent points I hadn't considered. I will remove the explicit widening from this RFC and update my pull request. I was considering having that aspect as a separate vote, but this point about mixed being a recent addition was a point I hadn't considered, and to me suggests that it shouldn't even be an option in the RFC, particularly because we would like to update the ArrayAccess interface and that will affect a lot of existing code. Jordan --00000000000075821d05c988327a--