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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 18:12:45 -0400
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Problems with the mailing list [was: Re: [PHP-DEV]
 Request for karma to vote on RFCs]
From: mike@newclarity.net (Mike Schinkel)

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> On Jul 20, 2021, at 3:44 AM, Lynn <kjarli@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 9:33 AM Peter Bowyer =
<phpmailinglists@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>=20
>> I have now been contacted by 2 people who tried multiple times to =
join this
>> mailing list and cannot.
>>=20
>> It took me 5 weeks for my signup to work. During that time I emailed =
the
>> different @php.net mailboxes related to infrastructure and/or the web =
and
>> received no response. Eventually I managed to sign up - once I =
created this
>> brand-new Gmail account. The signup form is unreliable.
>>=20
>> There are people wanting to take part in discussions who can't.
>>=20
> It took me a very long time to get signed up to the mailing list as =
well,
> so I poked around on twitter back then to see if anyone could help me. =
I've
> tried several times over the timespan of at least a year and I never
> received a follow up after using the form. I'm not sure what changed, =
it
> just worked eventually. I'm also still receiving a bunch of messages =
from
> the mailing list in my spam folder (gmail), and there's not much I can =
do
> about it. I would love to see a system replacing the mailing list, one
> where we can reliably use things like markdown to properly quote and =
have
> code blocks and have at least semi-decent threaded discussions.

A fix[1] has been applied in hopes to resolve the mailing list sign-up =
issue.  For those who had issues with signing up for the mailing list =
would you be willing to please test the signup process[2]? =20

If yes and you still experience a problem, could you please report the =
issue to php-webmaster@lists.php.net =
<mailto:php-webmaster@lists.php.net> list, or if you don't want to sign =
up for that list you could please email me off-list so I could look into =
the continued problem and communicate about it on the webmaster list for =
you?

Thank you in advance.

-Mike

[1] https://github.com/php/web-php/pull/426
[2] https://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php=

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