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To: Tiffany Taylor <tiffany.k.taylor@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Problems with the mailing list [was: Re: [PHP-DEV]
 Request for karma to vote on RFCs]
From: mike@newclarity.net (Mike Schinkel)

> On Jul 22, 2021, at 1:53 PM, Tiffany Taylor =
<tiffany.k.taylor@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Forwarding this to internals because I mistakenly replied to an email
> directly.
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> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 2:33 AM Peter Bowyer =
<phpmailinglists@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>>>> Currently there are people with voting permissions that do vote, =
yet do
>> not interact with RFCs or the mailing list.
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>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 23:34, Bob Magic <bob@majdak.net> wrote:
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>>> i'd say we need something more modern and transparent than this old
>> mailing
>>> list, but i completely lack a suggestion that isn't somehow worse =
than
>> what
>>> we got now in terms of massively multiplayer discussion.
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>>=20
>> I have now been contacted by 2 people who tried multiple times to =
join this
>> mailing list and cannot.
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>> It took me 5 weeks for my signup to work. During that time I emailed =
the
>> different @php.net mailboxes related to infrastructure and/or the web =
and
>> received no response. Eventually I managed to sign up - once I =
created this
>> brand-new Gmail account. The signup form is unreliable.
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>> There are people wanting to take part in discussions who can't.
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>> I volunteer to help sort this. Can someone who knows the PHP group
>> procedures please tell me the next steps?
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>> Peter
>>=20
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> Disclaimer: I am scanning a previous conversation while composing this
> email. It has been a month since I dived into this code, so this email =
may
> contain some inaccuracies, I ask for your patience in that regard.
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> It was noted off-list that there are difficulties with subscribing to
> mailing lists. Ramsey and I looked at the code about a month ago,
> discovered that there are some broken bits around
> =
https://github.com/php/web-php/blob/7d6e63b6163e1991077822b71f7ba561e51712=
86/mailing-lists.php#L66-L89
> and
> =
https://github.com/php/web-master/blob/819070de35a7b167766d3d64cbb0b450327=
eed7b/public/entry/subscribe.php#L9-L14.
> He was able to get the subscription code working locally while running =
7.4,
> but the code does not work on 8.0, due to removed functions.
> See also: =
https://github.com/php/web-php/blob/master/include/layout.inc#L251
> , https://github.com/php/web-php/blob/master/mailing-lists.php#L99.
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> With that said, I want to invest time to resolve this, but I am =
currently
> working on other things, and thus haven't had time to volunteer to fix =
it.
> I can only speak for myself, but if someone wanted to take upon =
themselves
> to resolve this, I would greatly appreciate it.

I could work on this as I recently got web-php set up and working =
locally to be able to submit some PRs.

But I assume the [PHP-DEV] list is probably not the best list to discuss =
this.  Can someone please recommend which list this would be best =
discussed on?

-Mike=