Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:115535 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 51163 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2021 15:47:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2021 15:47:02 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295271804DA for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 09:12:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-lf1-f54.google.com (mail-lf1-f54.google.com [209.85.167.54]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 09:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf1-f54.google.com with SMTP id g22so24667938lfu.0 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 09:12:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=majdak-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=WsmSXNXrMLT1AQZiw40PPZTJoXgOcH6WvIEyztt9OPo=; b=RfVRZt8wIP5rOZcnhY5uNaJgLP0/RFD/3btjQv5Z1V1R40UpE0gRfhEdnaoa05Eeqs TdH8d6sP2/DK4D7O5hE87xHoVRiVLaSnhljXEsnIMblqTbDMq/4JOzOaeAfgsPfcXNQ7 Cz3xaisQGxp8z+kS+bvN6pSQkS/JFmlWUDlBxKJetxjnLgHLwc/m/B0qlikZyaVUrs1X AAagB/PXYg2x8f71ZzDuh7Ohpokxu3KEvRoMo0UP5h35W5YlYBLVYwJpNlwj03MoqpIb dmduppA1D3bsLl8tXD7MsdJEpw/Rxgu5eWOgjudFxcz7aOm0ijY5PhrkMgaussV4Xft4 usig== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=WsmSXNXrMLT1AQZiw40PPZTJoXgOcH6WvIEyztt9OPo=; b=hH55Zeq7MjmfJpWDkcnV5mIDrw/HWJrqsPY578NfQPtrdHB14tH9QBDWOU1eX4NKmY ih1w3gvd0osA/mItylqD7cqGpbm1LZhVKLy7CqSKoScl4wOO8quCPeCmgBjgSh/2HDtH KdpMg1RN9YrUkHLDXhw2Al0Qi7r+d9zKa1NZyKH+eDYeCSdHrdv4qMpgskDNS+QSPvrT Y59ieeRER2/jGcFAMlfnG8wRE4jo6Jwz8y8ljISYsznFHvtUiCXoAHiLzdkidDS2plLF RmlOb1+RsVm7+hxkI+g+ro7uGFa3iJRoTgF7c5vkUaoU2GJ42XWGsik363FsaBXQJEtc wVDA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533Du09hFLDgEbqro7Y0NN4UytbtxQhAi/XrV4hSMVVwyGH+1FEH 9B7iLIE4ACA32LqALx9gK50v8tIhweCHWf6vDxbshpfQFN9Gng== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzMscgFXyS1uv+etVxIvjYzVIcbo+Wm/kDYnfREBidJisDsBc2lcRsJqn7eaMz/CXLqelw4FoA82u3z0HM/Rsg= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:33c9:: with SMTP id d9mr12578236lfg.28.1626797535292; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 09:12:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 11:12:02 -0500 Message-ID: To: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000368a4105c7905193" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Problems with the mailing list [was: Re: [PHP-DEV] Request for karma to vote on RFCs] From: bob@majdak.net (Bob Magic) --000000000000368a4105c7905193 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" i can't prove that i was shadowbanned but after a huge fight with someone on this mailing list, i stopped getting all responses from it, even just general help commands, for about 6 years. mysteriously it just started working again last year with nothing done on my part, and here i am, right where it left off. it could have just been as broken for me as it was you. On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 2:44 AM Lynn wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 9:33 AM Peter Bowyer > wrote: > >> I have now been contacted by 2 people who tried multiple times to join >> this >> mailing list and cannot. >> >> It took me 5 weeks for my signup to work. During that time I emailed the >> different @php.net mailboxes related to infrastructure and/or the web and >> received no response. Eventually I managed to sign up - once I created >> this >> brand-new Gmail account. The signup form is unreliable. >> >> There are people wanting to take part in discussions who can't. >> >> > It took me a very long time to get signed up to the mailing list as well, > so I poked around on twitter back then to see if anyone could help me. I've > tried several times over the timespan of at least a year and I never > received a follow up after using the form. I'm not sure what changed, it > just worked eventually. I'm also still receiving a bunch of messages from > the mailing list in my spam folder (gmail), and there's not much I can do > about it. I would love to see a system replacing the mailing list, one > where we can reliably use things like markdown to properly quote and have > code blocks and have at least semi-decent threaded discussions. > --000000000000368a4105c7905193--