Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:115531 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 41042 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2021 14:01:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2021 14:01:37 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40A91804D1 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 07:26:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-ua1-f54.google.com (mail-ua1-f54.google.com [209.85.222.54]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 07:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ua1-f54.google.com with SMTP id g4so8107902uap.5 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 07:26:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2dlZ7JWoBe6tO91CkC78OZTh2ca+NjGLI1Axa7GAYGY=; b=O9Z4AYoVeQXHfZJ2582K4LK0mtCWIm5+zCbbhVMM69FS1b9ziodQNWkph3gNiaK6eQ JI7b96KCs3iCTq+hPmyTD8T+L1pyd3NOzexVYFEQMXgyyJNJUXzHYUvhovAsK9wDIs2A UI9iRvhPS/0XUolypW3L/Q3UqTULuD0ddyKkOnbx0DR+K+JNVhLVu1e7Uxp4fcnr6Klp FMoFY4YQf5U+OQUbneFKGYQjst+g9Hvp0xtcLUVJzW/Yn6fGDsfzE8nzP8tSDqIlr9CA oMTN/YUDgMC0KvUWph8G+3r9+G/OF0eQ/1atAUSR5Rq6zMZtycmzHOZdGsZBvA1Wju9b 5NYw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2dlZ7JWoBe6tO91CkC78OZTh2ca+NjGLI1Axa7GAYGY=; b=XEy8RPFo32lVOlBrfbFyCf2k8A6vAGjskS/bfjjJQKa/CE4nR5pCOYEYU7TVtjqRjW 3DK3ckLllN8BM7OjDNJK12gozBs+0+2c3sZs03Yr+oYO44m2fyYEh28OBBiwelsxFVQS 1dDIl7PSvv4nRxV2LLFJGaJVYrXSxthMBIp47Fqwf9QaqpJgUvbV6gBqyKyTtlqvGWRk jRBwHAbvQUaKSLPeKSBApEO2UJvDEvBkdZDFR0WC7hoea3f6MhOgOAHFjUFwbGixTyB1 R1HsA0B15EpL5sD6VVm6kdFCIRKk2RlX7zmF6vuoZZtb08hU+PNz40NKQyvfvY0Ip9QU oyug== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532JeZaZb0MSr/sItTPTzjNuVKxUI7HQ2omHvPgOxCXeDVE+ejrF 77rcZy90y8Dwr5LTZ/IvPBv8UogK1yyNtT/mo3A= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxF77tuCTVWPAsDv5wT6PFgjRVuC7Jc+tJqPQt/6Mwmq7k/RuFUHx8Hl1ZqcLzsMNaPOwdtm1F5UBvSDneCUZM= X-Received: by 2002:a9f:315c:: with SMTP id n28mr31608306uab.68.1626791209566; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 07:26:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <96487D08-8573-4308-A11C-3118113C03DA@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <96487D08-8573-4308-A11C-3118113C03DA@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 10:26:38 -0400 Message-ID: To: Tobias Nyholm Cc: Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002b858705c78ed802" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Request for karma to vote on RFCs From: matthewmatthew@gmail.com (Matthew Brown) --0000000000002b858705c78ed802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 14:47, Tobias Nyholm wrote= : > There has not been many (maybe just one or two) RFCs where I wished the > vote turned out the other way. > This was the reason that I did *not* think that I needed a vote, as a prolific PHP coder =E2=80=94 while individual voters might be voting the "w= rong" way, in the aggregate the decisions were all pretty good. While I think it's important for me to share my opinion (because my opinion is, like, the best opinion), I don't think that opinion needs to be able to vote. You and I still have soft power =E2=80=94 we can use our platform (many exi= sting voters follow both you and I on Twitter) to encourage people to vote yes on an RFC we feel strongly about e.g. https://twitter.com/psalmphp/status/1347163072587186178. There are also lots of examples of non-voters influencing RFCs to make them more acceptable to the wider PHP community: https://twitter.com/brendt_gd/status/1335090303192195075 Best wishes, Matt --0000000000002b858705c78ed802--