Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:115528 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 32080 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2021 12:46:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2021 12:46:09 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC27180531 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 06:11:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-qk1-f182.google.com (mail-qk1-f182.google.com [209.85.222.182]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 06:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk1-f182.google.com with SMTP id m68so19926535qke.7 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 06:11:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=newclarity-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=HxCmc0mYv0zQqi4HoRYxWmXN5jxVMmiub5WO1HozT3s=; b=X3MXcvddRAZ4mg4mJVECbnzfLfm9UGbyjSJLnMrKmkJlS947blj41dwJeACOkqZY6r l1AbtNdoGst9jHsd5jexw6G1vWWe6TzixAXjrfjhgLbAovJVQiGFZuovbNe9XcoxZSBw GtWpIVbMiUrcBsrokrJaU+Qf9WDjRZqp2cxc4pOk8iqKwyaixvxyMJDRyfN7KuD8A0Qa 0w7OgVIuvAq+tKqVK2giTmHZlYptTgxuxDFYk/H5IeJaM6DXYf/Vt8vh1hg1qyYBe9mM cwaaW1v8iLxizOCFkv9RItc/w9bIp8+9QwmC1TQH88MHs/6zSXFOl/a1+htYpJrNpLuN nD3g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=HxCmc0mYv0zQqi4HoRYxWmXN5jxVMmiub5WO1HozT3s=; b=n1YxpO4Us+jSJECddORhPnvW3I6dOfRJ+CihcGP6ddEwHUbc/Z3LUak4OGp8zHaZQj pIhJsqLOhK/vU35vDOpbf/0p8IbRiSNFV4QFxWIi9c8WQrdDKxd78FzjkzrV/N+3W63i nWRLDhpR0/tbe6awWsbAzlXuxLs5OYV0G2NQZ5pfYSh211tf+RhUf/aDQr5lpyEqJasN ffZLg17WivsN7Xpj5wV1sZee8s2zSuA+LC00wfYiLht6OFD5JziSGtKMc/MVQ3COHwFL xpVfZEUSSak1ukVSp7IajHLwO4knHSobcDF+clnaiYc530pLLQLXY+iOoCFSXAixzClG pAYQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532Kd0T4dXGUN2ROsfKg9VLOfvzeCq4Yz8PJPk2lmtUVXxvK0/0h LxVaublydVy3xOE+swNyQVaAnVN5aHJKN3Cq X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxDrMtjipz0KECnFSgMhvRSlore2z3dOv/Rv6x1wmQy3nyJIEC+xU18dE40iPh3MmJw2RrfUQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:ce7:: with SMTP id c7mr21364070qkj.445.1626786682476; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 06:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (c-24-98-254-8.hsd1.ga.comcast.net. [24.98.254.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t74sm9521376qka.56.2021.07.20.06.11.21 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Jul 2021 06:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) In-Reply-To: <76ab3892-a9f5-3191-7ef1-3d775378f50e@heigl.org> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 09:11:21 -0400 Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <966C59CB-126C-4796-A980-9F524C225268@newclarity.net> References: <96487D08-8573-4308-A11C-3118113C03DA@gmail.com> <9d55f768-41d2-d970-8417-aa786d86b984@heigl.org> <76ab3892-a9f5-3191-7ef1-3d775378f50e@heigl.org> To: Andreas Heigl X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Request for karma to vote on RFCs From: mike@newclarity.net (Mike Schinkel) > On Jul 20, 2021, at 8:55 AM, Andreas Heigl wrote: >=20 > Hey Mike >=20 > Thank you for your feedback! >=20 > Am 20.07.21 um 11:57 schrieb Mike Schinkel: >> Quoting the RFC >>=20 >>> the requester has contributed to the PHP sourcecode ecosystem. >>=20 >> You mention what types of contributions apply, but give no indication = of quantity. If someone fixes one bug, does that give them voting = rights? I would assume not. So is it two bugs, 10 bugs, 100? >=20 > As the RFC is still not finished especially in terms of wording that = is > something that definitely needs some improvements. I tried to leave it > as open as possible in the initial draft to have that as basis for > further discussions. What do you think would be an appropriate number? As I don't have voting rights, I don't think I am in an empowered = position to make specific suggestions. If I were going to design the PHP's governance I would design = differently, but since I'm not in a role to do that I can only accept = that PHP governance is the way that it is, and point out things I think = might be problematic.=20 As for specific suggestions? I'll let others who already have a vote = specify those. -Mike=