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To: Hamza Ahmad <office.hamzaahmad@gmail.com>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 13:59:00 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Request for karma to vote on RFCs
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From: Andreas Heigl <andreas@heigl.org>
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Hey Hamza

Am 20.07.21 um 13:12 schrieb Hamza Ahmad:
> I am not going to critique the RFC; rather, I say that this RFC needs
> a fresh rewrite because I find more like it a set of instructions. The
> proposal needs to be a detailed one. It seams as if it is written
> hastily.

As noted in the original Email to the list, the RFC is a draft that was
explicitly put onto github (and not into the PHP-Wiki) to allow working
on it before putting it up on the PHP-Wiki for the discussion phase that
is required for an RFC.

Yes: You are right! The RFC was written hastily! It was mainly written
hastily to have something as base for discussions so that we have
*something* that we can then together improve over multiple iterations
to make a great RFC out of it that will
a) provide a consistent way for gaining voting karma and
b) has a chance to be accepted when it comes to voting for or against
this RFC.

So the intention of this RFC is not to be the only relevant solution to
a problem we might probably not even have. On the contrary: The
intention is to provide something that everyone interested can improve
to something great.

So your input is more than welcome. Especially your input in form of a
PR to improve the current version! And of course also your input in form
of discussion contributions on that text.

What this RFC will for sure *not* modify is the infrastructure. We have
a certain infrastructure at the moment and changing that will take much
more than an RFC. So this RFC also has to take that as a given and has
to work around this. As great as some changes would be: we can not take
them for grantend in the course of this RFC.

So looking forward to your PR.

Cheers

Andreas

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