Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:115509 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 82232 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2021 07:07:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2021 07:07:53 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096EA1804C8 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 00:33:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-ej1-f49.google.com (mail-ej1-f49.google.com [209.85.218.49]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 00:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ej1-f49.google.com with SMTP id ga14so32919834ejc.6 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 00:33:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=xaXrQK4wjqSMOgU3PGJ9LAD6kz5gXM9Q4ILs8qtFAms=; b=n4uby5X37W0TWDIrnXnmofVUfsrIgEBEd5hVomkP6Osa2vp9K+QPweoEpZ7Dzo822z 59ZZBb+zcGiDJJBYA4LT7O55jLct+yAj997RHWSbTZ9wz2+2Fkr3mHnLLWCZ6uueXSml Jo8uMSGymhQE3Eefl1qn8M+5b8sTDQX20icI4+qdHgo9ieVbMzwGxQYv6XfzviZZ7w0C 4Jxssk1cBTDr2sVda7V+lbhwnG+Z/43cCHIR1hKp06vdx5i7F9kOgz8oavFzWrHlElF0 Jo+N6a9MKwhP4wOHNeeWm1cueLLrHmngMHiR6z7acroDbH6wK7BvBqZV+COVrzWbNemT QMnA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xaXrQK4wjqSMOgU3PGJ9LAD6kz5gXM9Q4ILs8qtFAms=; b=Mogcprck4C7v8K6nssg6myD8xaKXH2GruVCiDHhH9iV2DliE2wOcXQrGusQnejubCw PS4qaKKycfWl0KMn15/ET0Z+/j3aS4A/Lx2iaDGlOia9Ql7uzPrwJ+4swtNQfD76Qt5f KK77AXv3j0E17nI/VpAz1IK1Ab83Z2FU4BEE2G/3WlQaalz5e1FZHwfUc+PRlWypdxmu nWGnhUy6jZPyQGUUBMdai7fqmrV/LQhHvwOP1g+69ykcuCOlIoJSKp3a7o0qX3azJ9Pp 7vxVOkvre7FRaKLPWMg8cG2CFE8i5ayxWQzwlIG9lIjRA0XaoXAieDNfj4KhdTZZCXW4 Xa8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533nvy15VpZ2dmsLS7nFM3z/IQvJTsKecooPvXQx4tPxoUqO1FDX 3VKrqCniW+SaJcfKAcN24XpPLzRWZOw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx6MrlAG9NsJAnQLUUquxzruIBr89XzVrP4Q/V5UX786wIpLZQJ6tZ4OnbMLWoW2opk7Y5eRg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:aad9:: with SMTP id kt25mr12153502ejb.48.1626766383313; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 00:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ed1-f51.google.com (mail-ed1-f51.google.com. [209.85.208.51]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u26sm6776244ejx.8.2021.07.20.00.32.58 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Jul 2021 00:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ed1-f51.google.com with SMTP id l1so27231428edr.11 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 00:32:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aa7:db93:: with SMTP id u19mr39140210edt.227.1626766378575; Tue, 20 Jul 2021 00:32:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 08:32:23 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Bob Magic Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000020bc9f05c7891006" Subject: Problems with the mailing list [was: Re: [PHP-DEV] Request for karma to vote on RFCs] From: phpmailinglists@gmail.com (Peter Bowyer) --00000000000020bc9f05c7891006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Currently there are people with voting permissions that do vote, yet do not interact with RFCs or the mailing list. On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 23:34, Bob Magic wrote: > i'd say we need something more modern and transparent than this old mailing > list, but i completely lack a suggestion that isn't somehow worse than what > we got now in terms of massively multiplayer discussion. > I have now been contacted by 2 people who tried multiple times to join this mailing list and cannot. It took me 5 weeks for my signup to work. During that time I emailed the different @php.net mailboxes related to infrastructure and/or the web and received no response. Eventually I managed to sign up - once I created this brand-new Gmail account. The signup form is unreliable. There are people wanting to take part in discussions who can't. I volunteer to help sort this. Can someone who knows the PHP group procedures please tell me the next steps? Peter --00000000000020bc9f05c7891006--