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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Request for karma to vote on RFCs
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Hey All

Am 19.07.21 um 16:34 schrieb Levi Morrison via internals:
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 2:38 AM Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com> wro=
te:
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 8:48 PM Tobias Nyholm <tobias.nyholm@gmail.com=
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey.
>>> I would like to get karma to be able to vote on RFCs. I understand th=
at
>>> voting karma isn=E2=80=99t usually given out to people who write thei=
r first
>>> mailing list entry.
>>>
>>> But I do believe I qualify as =E2=80=9CLead developers of PHP based p=
rojects
>>> (frameworks, cms, tools, etc.)=E2=80=9D
>>
>> Hey Tobias,
>>
>> My response here is basically the same as the last time the topic came=
 up:
>> https://externals.io/message/110936#110937 Voting is just the very las=
t
>> step of the RFC process, at which point the proposal can no longer be
>> influenced. If you have feedback about a proposal based on your extens=
ive
>> experience in PHP's open source ecosystem, then the discussion phase i=
s the
>> time to provide it, while it can still influence the proposal, as well=
 as
>> other people's view of the proposal.
>=20
> I second this.
>=20
>> At least in my personal opinion, I think it's important that people gr=
anted
>> voting rights as community representatives have at least some historic=
al
>> involvement in RFC discussions.
>=20
> I agree with this, but have no specific objection to granting Tobias
> voting karma, as this is underspecified; how long should they
> participate? What kinds of involvement are appropriate? Being
> underspecified is not really their fault, and I don't feel like it
> would be an abuse to grant them voting karma, but do think it would be
> an abuse to deny them voting karma indefinitely because "we" don't get
> around to specifying it. It should be less of a decision on a
> case-by-case basis and more of a checklist.
>=20

Sounds like we need an RFC to make it clearer how voting karma for the
RFC process will be granted in the future.

Looking forward to your inputs.

Cheers

Andreas
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