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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 12:47:26 +0300
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To: Lynn <kjarli@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Request for karma to vote on RFCs
From: kalle@php.net (Kalle Sommer Nielsen)

Den man. 19. jul. 2021 kl. 12.11 skrev Lynn <kjarli@gmail.com>:
> I fully agree with this, as a developer I do not want to worry about low =
level php changes that do not directly impact me. Therefore I think that pe=
ople who do get impacted by this (for example open-source package managers)=
, at least get a vote in these changes. It's unfair to put the burden of wr=
iting abstractions on someone and then tell them they don't get a say in ma=
king their lives easier or more difficult.

Why is it then fair to give them voting rights if they only contribute
their vote but not words before hand? Why is it only possible to give
feedback in terms of a +1 or -1 and not feedback in text form? Because
if its only possible in that way, it makes me think that it is purely
a PR thing which makes me worry that the power vested into the voter
may not be just.

Why is there no dialogs from their side on internals with problems
they may have with directions? So far I do see a few faces from the
community like representives static analyzers, Nicolas Grekas and
Marco Pivetta to name some who actively takes part of the challenges
at hand and even actively runs RFCs on their own with implementation
patches, which is fantastic and well deserved in my opinion.


--=20
regards,

Kalle Sommer Nielsen
kalle@php.net