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To: Kalle Sommer Nielsen <kalle@php.net>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Request for karma to vote on RFCs
From: tobias.nyholm@gmail.com (Tobias Nyholm)

Thank you Kalle for the reply.=20

I do admire and respect Ond=C5=99ej and his work on PHPStan. He is =
really talented and from what I hear a really nice person. But please =
don=E2=80=99t confuse Ond=C5=99ej=E2=80=99s 8 packages with over 100.000 =
monthly downloads with my 50 packages plus another 100 in the Symfony =
organization.=20

I have tried to approach PHP internals once before by asking for =
permission to modify some outdated wiki entries. I got rejected by you =
and after that I didn=E2=80=99t feel motivated to work with PHP =
(source/internals) for a while. I=E2=80=99m sure it wasn=E2=80=99t your =
intention, don=E2=80=99t worry about it. I also know that I have =
modified the manual, or at least I=E2=80=99ve tried because that process =
is really painful. I=E2=80=99m honestly not sure if I managed to submit =
my changes and if I did, I don=E2=80=99t remember if they got accepted =
or not.

I know there are plenty of things that could be improved, be more =
inclusive and less complicated. For example, the manual pages for =
Sodium. They were released 4 years ago and still lots of functions are =
missing examples, lots of parameters/return types are undocumented and =
it is impossible to understand how to use Sodium for someone without a =
CS degree. The reason why these pages are still not fully documented is =
not because lack of knowledge or lack of interest/energy. =20

I think PHP=E2=80=99s biggest strength is its large and active =
community. But in my opinion, PHP (source/internals) often miss to =
benefit from our great community. I am happy to help making changes, but =
I feel like it is an impossible task for me=E2=80=A6 I mean, I cannot =
even update an outdated wiki entry.

I know I=E2=80=99m not a =E2=80=9Cproject leader=E2=80=9D for any of the =
handful large PHP projects. I also know that I am far from the =E2=80=9Cto=
p 1000 best developers=E2=80=9D list. But I know that there are not many =
people (if any) that have a larger impact of user-land PHP right now.=20

(I do acknowledge that there are people with more impact over the =
Symfony community, the Laravel community, or the cool async community =
etc.)

The only thing I=E2=80=99m asking for is to be among those 1000+ people =
that can vote on the language=E2=80=99s future.=20


// Tobias