Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:115416 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46833 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2021 20:05:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 12 Jul 2021 20:05:48 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3E1180502 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:29:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-io1-f51.google.com (mail-io1-f51.google.com [209.85.166.51]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io1-f51.google.com with SMTP id x10so5496999ion.9 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:29:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=TXGgNWkpxsHI5auChT1pibF+QiSSfQftvVTxpcP3irk=; b=pu/VxbJ5V9XdDQ7eLbHEBTEGhoiOEDCgDzJuJzx2yeccajLpgCGCGBgh+vVGM9yK3i pGe7O4kBYjd7qqCbvF4zD98L7fzw9sHjLJH0D7nuKLKwZxagvpk464iidcZ19O0f1Cde +YgmIoPbQyr+kADHVTrEjmHXz9hHtFBxq9H6yhqs7O2HobwCULBM3DKzl9dUlhFb6AN7 3XShba1NazZxUNdkgNZDZPSFhQnajkuO3VisbvGJesXYJelDZlYO7QcF/Up8+sBJdGbg 4ED9Tvn7eNxm+dPGgQ0tuzUBqCDYMFu6Y5c15o+wpGwCutOpnpA8/XT/61rWf0fh6PSx M/mA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=TXGgNWkpxsHI5auChT1pibF+QiSSfQftvVTxpcP3irk=; b=iEDMP6cxR47lSscd1oPV3yFGOwjQFhN9HZVL6I8qODb/VzTPUBkzYjVYc9T3oJ+/Y5 tZWUbVg3W9ZTWjl5hyunkWmXkXz96rHLZKl/+50UiKYwFuBCDasohmLV9/cjvaBV8yri Uid8YFsZ7RcyuoYJM55I/YG9lhHQ5zCNjFqOBjFSOtNAqfCT/bqVI+A36Vxm5wDdt8lB GyBlPy+sMTjsavdfegPiKi9R0dwaymNW1dJpfP3k0gTPoghnYnEVk5cct42Kow68R0go ReNAEDC+yXjHvoJ7SLJHnMMy4cmfo69Kn08SV5mEm/F03HgE/aMMQ3ZFib8gP1DIZ0wk fMgA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530REyWzu6epEbI5KL0q0ggGYjF94CiaPBwsPU+72lLWYfSmTT3P Naf2rZ2xZJCR6yQAdGljvtjho595s3iBlxJGkjk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz9IaER1OcUkj91MmwfnFT70dwvWgjr+a86Iwj29qSUH5eckWe91xvjEzI8fv/4oKK2TGwTYON6p7UPJTDZg9I= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:8986:: with SMTP id m6mr508054iol.87.1626121744503; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:29:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0d28ee72-accd-4dfc-a8e0-018c99e4a86d@www.fastmail.com> <90547b22-1b12-4cdb-acf5-bde6cace8aad@www.fastmail.com> <351E0836-93B1-4021-9754-2681C6E7BA34@newclarity.net> In-Reply-To: <351E0836-93B1-4021-9754-2681C6E7BA34@newclarity.net> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 22:28:37 +0200 Message-ID: To: Mike Schinkel Cc: Max Semenik , php internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f158a205c6f2f821" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Type casting syntax From: kjarli@gmail.com (Lynn) --000000000000f158a205c6f2f821 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 10:20 PM Mike Schinkel wrote: > It seems you have just illustrated why in reality we really do not need > type casting/assertions in PHP given its current features, because we > already have what we need. > That's not an argument I agree with, as it would invalidate the need for short closures, null coalesce, constructor property promotion, etc. Continuing on the previous example: ```php $service = $container->get(SomeService::class); assert($service instanceof SomeService); // could be replaced with $container->get(); // or in case of multiple instances: $container->get('the.service.alias'); // perhaps the service is optional $container->get(); ``` --000000000000f158a205c6f2f821--