Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:115415 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45255 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2021 19:57:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 12 Jul 2021 19:57:21 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98B41804DA for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:20:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-qk1-f178.google.com (mail-qk1-f178.google.com [209.85.222.178]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk1-f178.google.com with SMTP id e14so19271099qkl.9 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:20:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=newclarity-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=dQcIKROxM8D8seoydPPMeRfoMuzcGVIt7yqWuZwcc3s=; b=lJ3wS3Ze4ugx2xY6T34/Tzz5bjeBkNBlNeTTYrhLFlD/YEl05qp2vTpCYPR54AVpq1 Ki4P5BPt9NWW0gEwb185XaFNXsV86aKSej28jiy2SN77OpTJakVRs8yDZEigKSxgGeHZ x6tCTBwp3Wuyybp7uVMEXI5tosbpMbgv1+VMwPmLdySVVGYLtVfFvKZcilMfbTLBsXal Zyyu2dD///1KhkVemHMGv1tA9N6N4WIjo7HZHNZykqlcEst2F9/EFGapLEZK0xwdX/DQ cjkKEAvHVoWzHMjDrbQB5mQcOewwq+DxEWD5JQQ7yC5Zbjbs/ASgajye9L0f6Z70qqkF BHNA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=dQcIKROxM8D8seoydPPMeRfoMuzcGVIt7yqWuZwcc3s=; b=ZWc3k5sVL7bfvsiE5DiogntrBtO5bOGzZEvDKNnNsGzmiJ0OFHMNmTwZDzuQESgvck OMmUKFJlmSJXoJvPG5QuFmLgUGvuutbe96sWaEZocScDDqhv3EXPy+OSby3er0+4oBaL APU4VzpZr06yGtHleQkG/aOO+UVNRBB2NNlYq0JsBNqeRd81ZTRXlFbRiZ3HMbyoYPCM z+gDrT661vBgDkR0gdZJkQCFdqN1m9k2V7wtrlBf+lnqfMkqzU8uOBJjd6MM58NwJwmU ip+C2L33QHQE/Rx6QLEDILnzKokJoaWIzV460YeURrGXUlt79W9dLr+v+UzN6cwpredm xAZA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5315Rl3aK2Os8clkMuRzjcmmnNpyY3feyg/XO/G7F28Qqz0IGIKS XqtQQzQ3v5UE/1H9LRfLAe7u+w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzWJKM08vs8upYp0JFNZ4rveZBwMG6rnqzjPk7awefAOi/PWMWcXeyPxTzSycA52N07MIpsJQ== X-Received: by 2002:a37:6856:: with SMTP id d83mr538976qkc.4.1626121235136; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (c-24-98-254-8.hsd1.ga.comcast.net. [24.98.254.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 9sm7051192qkp.14.2021.07.12.13.20.34 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <351E0836-93B1-4021-9754-2681C6E7BA34@newclarity.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_ED6A120F-FD33-4F47-839D-589EA09902B2" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 16:20:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: Cc: php internals To: Max Semenik References: <0d28ee72-accd-4dfc-a8e0-018c99e4a86d@www.fastmail.com> <90547b22-1b12-4cdb-acf5-bde6cace8aad@www.fastmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Type casting syntax From: mike@newclarity.net (Mike Schinkel) --Apple-Mail=_ED6A120F-FD33-4F47-839D-589EA09902B2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Jul 12, 2021, at 1:56 PM, Max Semenik = wrote: >=20 > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:01 PM Mike Schinkel > wrote: > Additionally in Go a type assertion can return a second value which is = boolean telling if the type assertion succeeded. Not having this would = effectively moot the benefit to a type assertion if you had to wrap with = try{}catch{} in case it failed. >=20 > Not necessarily: >=20 > if ($obj instanceof MyClass) { > // We know its type here > } else { > // Try something else > } Well there you go. =20 It seems you have just illustrated why in reality we really do not need = type casting/assertions in PHP given its current features, because we = already have what we need. -Mike --Apple-Mail=_ED6A120F-FD33-4F47-839D-589EA09902B2--