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Tue, 6 Jul 2021 23:54:47 +0000 X-MS-PublicTrafficType: Email X-IncomingHeaderCount: 47 X-EOPAttributedMessage: 0 X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: b07bfb2a-5629-4848-7f50-08d940d96f9e X-MS-TrafficTypeDiagnostic: DB8EUR06HT245: X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0; X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: 2pZh5nBNJ6aJimuF8Mzz/JWUXFPxLLl4YgvsOMlXaQQDJwpERGodPWPmJ3sYQqSje0B8lurakx0UfyngFSZwoIMJJH/+0IfFLuKSd2Q86czZwz00nnE+u8mrIre42AMEm2jaETLgln9IGSZxp4/zXGGf64hDtVaV13LuI2Khkj+y9HcOV52SXCsyPofyemkNVFZOqmCj5C7y0qFj6LJIj2EF59A5X1FDbDnvzAi3RmEjtnv4M63v2hsPj2Gk6TddCO6IcjY+WSlBuf9JBIt94AKJCTa2FA/n3ea04S6RCglxHvaJ9nP5SabT1NQ+nn0+mW8tNwj0d/ncZmCZ5YA3Cvbwci3upPFs0YXqDimVmKBRArmM2Q4Ekmm13w0uiMHIi+rL+bCmZICRKx6iKmNifU1PYl0zXJtoDL00qE6oExFWQEOnisHMGh0jeh2OvHlTv4UGASVBphqgQRUxset11GmbUB8iqidr9Pro40SNwJU= X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData: nQqTI3iFbMiC4vxGMpmcWTEyRQLmCyA+gCSSAXIFN67za/DbR/HAscTO8VMua/vmZom9Xr32iyXVP+rGrJNdCTN7P0h1QW6d3JI0/zI9yFm16O5kqdwZJTUS2I8CgNw5LbX7pYOU02/GJR7vcjU3kxIRMP+JFmR0cqvq6xDMKoxOCG+X+hKCefgJXYLG01suEgr269uySRuvE/6QNKxwVQ== X-OriginatorOrg: hotmail.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: b07bfb2a-5629-4848-7f50-08d940d96f9e X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2021 23:54:48.3325 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: DB8EUR06FT009.eop-eur06.prod.protection.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Internet X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-RMS-PersistedConsumerOrg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DB8EUR06HT245 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [Vote] Pipe operator v2 From: bobwei9@hotmail.com (Bob Weinand) Hey Larry, there's still ongoing discussion on the semantics, and mirroring implementa= tion defined semantics from the implementation into the RFC is not the way = to go. The RFC should discuss reasons of why semantics were chosen and the = implementation then be decided upon it. Describing it as "design artifact" = is not okay. I'm voting no at this point, to force it to be postponed to PHP 8.2 with pr= oper thought of what the semantics shall be. Possibly the semantics are fin= e (I tend to disagree with the current ones, but that's rather point for di= scussion), but they are not discussed enough, especially as they only got d= escribed in the RFC in the last minutes before the vote. Bob > Am 06.07.2021 um 19:13 schrieb Larry Garfield : >=20 > I have opened the vote on the Pipe operator RFC: >=20 > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/pipe-operator-v2 >=20 > The vote will close on 20 July. >=20 > --=20 > Larry Garfield > larry@garfieldtech.com >=20 > --=20 > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: https://www.php.net/unsub.php >=20