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To: Rowan Tommins <rowan.collins@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Deprecations for PHP 8.1
From: mike@newclarity.net (Mike Schinkel)

> On Jul 5, 2021, at 7:14 AM, Rowan Tommins <rowan.collins@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> On 05/07/2021 11:46, Patrick ALLAERT wrote:
>> Did we ever deprecated something without the immediate intention of
>> removing it?
>=20
>=20
> What would that even mean?

It would mean that although the functions are available and allowed, =
they are not recommended[1].


> Surely a deprecation, by definition, is a notice that something is =
going to be removed.

I know that you, and others on this list, have chosen to define =
deprecation as including removal, but that is actually not the accepted =
definition on the web, nor is it in any way a requirement, it is just =
your preference. =20

Indirectly from Wikipedia and voted as the top answer on StackOverflow =
here[2] (emphasis MINE):

"deprecation is a status applied to software features to indicate that =
they should be avoided, typically because they have been superseded. =
Although deprecated features remain in the software, their use may raise =
warning messages recommending alternative practices, and deprecation MAY =
indicate that the feature will be removed in the future."

So I am arguing for the legitimacy of retaining "deprecated" features if =
their removal would cause significant BC breakage, I'm not just trying =
to be a pendant. =20

-Mike
[1] https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/deprecated
[2] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8111774/deprecated-meaning