Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:115249 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 28816 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2021 10:17:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 2021 10:17:38 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F31180502 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2021 03:38:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-vs1-f54.google.com (mail-vs1-f54.google.com [209.85.217.54]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2021 03:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vs1-f54.google.com with SMTP id x141so3529201vsx.2 for ; Thu, 01 Jul 2021 03:38:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=vvThW+Xge/RccXcPvDeK7DmyxtDSi9NUVRG8VBtFZHE=; b=Cbry4srxkPQukrrz7iHQcj1oaRcr4VCGq/BD6FNhCWZk3yBgyCZiR4WVSSVjV82lPl zTqrzzcZw1jBZUt+4W0TGSTH/9HTEYTVd6KUVUI9ZWDGJf8R68qnATMqNh0VJsyy6cS4 cMkcSB9NPM4rxCGSUvLEyiV9MkQerW+0JUcrPosJuWGq7DwwiUTAsc0cppckjfz8nWDr zAJTKy1kqzDTxrCT19uuZESQOyL67PCiRSbO/A0iOKDO2U28HZwE5XLw/E/SLumUI0Om uI2mwNIWehnBUE/VIwlEqhcL17I+mGme3GHfGFwy2K7QR93K+hnIfmUbFOJTD6q/2gZR Wpdg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=vvThW+Xge/RccXcPvDeK7DmyxtDSi9NUVRG8VBtFZHE=; b=M/36dbJZF5coQpgFa9qQcJfOyMxSPeIX+iRvLjNJTFj06b88ZMqA3yh85Mi7VyJyR0 qzImcdTWnJRYC+46FpGtNIpylZ9wNHFzE4ykcs1rXKt080fMtKFBexfGmHC7g42xHeQN 1YtKqiCaTNOYki5Ms74wtRp+Sh6NIugQFboQ/axDnTjdEsqkVqmPEcospPeI6tHxPheN DlFpuBS6cPJVleB/acpP2tfYff3JMrlfJD3YIMQeHPcWMULGtwWdukGK+sqU+/0EqWi2 EjAsWqpf137h6v3JxYZks6MhRp4O7Q0lURUO39ssMGbo5V28SFMxTeLaiXSOIls7sjBL SViA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533jvGoZNONi9SSDgX5NLoCWDoiR2OtJ2nUk2gJqxUVVlZIGmECL UaZ147SBMze/KVGy3ae5Aou3xcMJbq9URWz2Phw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy67BcC87ophW1OmkqDk2405y366m2ULh32QtCbGhvR6vkdG/C9aHIKJ84RUC8uTJC4SC3ikBoDs1pVO8sQ10I= X-Received: by 2002:a67:ed8e:: with SMTP id d14mr28946043vsp.25.1625135885899; Thu, 01 Jul 2021 03:38:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:6342:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jul 2021 03:38:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 15:38:05 +0500 Message-ID: To: Nikita Popov Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Readonly properties From: office.hamzaahmad@gmail.com (Hamza Ahmad) Hi Nikita, It is going to be the second contribution from you regarding OOP. However, this proposal, as you have mentioned, has some issues with cloning. What if you would have opened voting after fixing this? Or, your mood is to get it passed and then fix it before final release of 8.1? Thank you Hamza Ahmad On 7/1/21, Nikita Popov wrote: > Hi internals, > > I have opened voting on https://wiki.php.net/rfc/readonly_properties_v2. > The vote closes 2021-07-15. > > See https://externals.io/message/114729 for the discussion thread on this > proposal. I think a decent tl;dr is that readonly properties as proposed do > not play well with clone-based withers, so some people believe we should > either improve cloning first, or introduce asymmetric property visibility > instead, which does not suffer from this issue. > > Regards, > Nikita >