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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Alternative syntax for Nowdoc.
From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Tommins)

On 30/06/2021 11:51, Manuel Canga wrote:
> I see this purpose as a simplification of Nowdocs. Just like `[]` with `array()`.


A PHP code base might have thousands of array literals, some of which 
will be very short, and maybe nested inside each other. That makes the 
saving of 5 characters per literal add up to a big difference across the 
code base.

On the other hand, nowdocs will generally be for long strings 
(otherwise, a single- or double-quoted string would be more concise 
anyway), and will happen a handful of times across the code base. Saving 
5 characters per nowdoc (``` instead of <<<'EOF') is therefore a much 
more minor difference.

In exchange for that small gain, we'd be adding an extra rule in every 
PHP parser (IDEs, code style tools, etc), and an extra thing for new 
developers to understand (the documentation for how to write strings is 
already long enough to get bored halfway through).

I think there is more cost than benefit.

Regards,

-- 
Rowan Tommins
[IMSoP]