Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:115171 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 77899 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2021 12:39:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 2021 12:39:41 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0B41804D9 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 05:59:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-lf1-f46.google.com (mail-lf1-f46.google.com [209.85.167.46]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 05:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf1-f46.google.com with SMTP id bp27so7367728lfb.9 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 05:59:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=7MQ2Sy7hUdumEQ0IsOWVjBg0HdBSv5FxFq2ZRvjyQJk=; b=RwZzZE38KYQ2+p5X1TVhLjv8OqBD3KMQooRgyfYHEzx9HRfGR0qdcbDBwHrbnG+tsO beEFWFKpEfgHsqyE9yfIeo/FiHchxsTMZqqk7b0o9vxVC0ZCQabV0TZm+gnwxG00AJd0 ocz9a37LyqhOsRP/JSSsfrApEM7596I66gVDpSqwdQbZj4tGPh2b26Qb16GOu6nDpZs6 OmRUBzmwjJLpANEsn+cTi3XvqUuBTO59Dk443q/le3qmcxsKbW6Dro2sdaUWcknrUq2Z RTIyLjKQjZQsiTC2vHtzDa2GtvMPn+XlR4H0kCsEMv/JaNp7Ky3NP4DEQ0JqtarpAezX DBDg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=7MQ2Sy7hUdumEQ0IsOWVjBg0HdBSv5FxFq2ZRvjyQJk=; b=Nu9g2/R9f58MkSXDoFhkpIuZ0qDX1veNHIsYg3PC+jcNhs4WjaewR621ND/rLpFZ7d 1wnPvn5RM5zYj9toHbgLtcO2pj8XPT4izeDlHYUrFElyPNfo+O4PktPosWQBaLZNDEPV Yyd0iapZdOBJ5RcyB0XEDXmEHi74eEnyhF6NU4eQkqWQVXTYCUjtXVHwzlGVJQqKUZpw X5+plFlAA6af2Nkvft5Lx+blJc1I5Ao8YMDpLaLbZ6uyRyIIbqM+PJEUchj16PQVGGOO g1U/eTeHu7JWlkaMBPt3hHiUIHgTSXyU+O7j18dhr+lZ5y9CV5wxpGiZcraFwwxtXSLq CZrA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532Q79zS7dX99nF91j6BlKSsltMCYeevC9bkRlXGoBGWmiFol5ux CpfRwqRPgpHCgzAIAp3EyivH2PwSFgAzpsq6DLJb91sYtA8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzc6JeDFIXhs0i7pIIv3oOI6UB6EGDXqPYFD9spO5JJ5X0KLVleLzegOb/tYSeyWeKeHNNiHbooK5U5AsGA6qk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:304b:: with SMTP id b11mr18424894lfb.315.1624885164367; Mon, 28 Jun 2021 05:59:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 14:59:07 +0200 Message-ID: To: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000005e4a505c5d30f5d" Subject: Re: [RFC] Readonly properties From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --00000000000005e4a505c5d30f5d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 5:19 PM Nikita Popov wrote: > Hi internals, > > I'd like to open the discussion on readonly properties: > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/readonly_properties_v2 > > This proposal is similar to the > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/write_once_properties RFC that has been declined > previously. One significant difference is that the new RFC limits the scope > of initializing assignments. I think a key mistake of the previous RFC was > the confusing "write-once" framing, which is both technically correct and > quite irrelevant. > > Please see the rationale section ( > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/readonly_properties_v2#rationale) for how this > proposal relates to other RFCs and alternatives. > I plan to open voting on this RFC soon. I don't think there's anything technical left to address here, the discussion mostly comes down to a value judgement. I think everyone has made their position regarding that clear... Regards, Nikita --00000000000005e4a505c5d30f5d--