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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 12:26:07 +0500
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To: Mike Schinkel <mike@newclarity.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Introduce str_left/right In 8.1
From: office.hamzaahmad@gmail.com (Hamza Ahmad)

To George

> substring of the original string. And by that logic left and right are
> actually linguistically incorrect due to languages being read Right to Le=
ft
> or Top to Bottom.

Thanks George for pointing out an important aspect regarding the
choice of names. Will you consider a vote if there is a better name? I
do admire your idea of respecting other languages. In 21st centuary,
people are considering these facts. Recent developments, such as
GitHub=E2=80=99s decision to rename master to main, is a famous example of
these. Even Coq developers want to rename it just because it 	was
supposedly associated with mail anatomy . Refference:
https://developer-tech.com/news/2021/jun/15/programming-language-coq-change=
-name-obvious-reasons/

> only a very restricted number of programming
> languages, which are some of the earliest languages ever, implement those
> functions should tell you something about programming language design
> as a whole,

Another member on the list, namely Mike, has added to the discussion
and I second his opinion.

> Yes this requires an RFC, just by this thread alone you should realize
> this is controversial, and I'll personally vote against it because there =
is
> no advantage to have this in core at all.

Sure, I would love to come up with an RFC. This thread has provided me
with enough content to build my argument. I am thankful to you for
razing many great points, such as descriptive naming. As for voting
rights, it is yours, sir,, and no one is stealing this from you.
Though you are against this proposal, what if you reconsider and
revisit your idea? Just because Sara and You and also my friends at
php.earth are against it, it does not mean that people are not
supporting it. I am following it on externals, some people down-voted
this thread and some up-voted it. Currently, it is in positive number.
I have referred to it just because people do follow our discussions
and have mixed opinions regarding this.

Best