Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:114908 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38500 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2021 16:53:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 2021 16:53:12 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73FFF1804DB for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 10:10:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-yb1-f178.google.com (mail-yb1-f178.google.com [209.85.219.178]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 10:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f178.google.com with SMTP id c8so4090018ybq.1 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 10:09:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=datadoghq.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=1diAFm46+ddxhVX38wXLNdBMIw0uO1E01qzzufF2/bQ=; b=EJ3JIRexKEJrv6yL3Urc4YK5ggNbBLdx2INdjGAccsnw1iUBj63kDhlpqYBHqXkwC9 kzpU1WWiRp3FlKKIiBzmBLgzyrNb8VOHIIgSGc2DedREnVHpFn8mpXFhSpC54yKxOjOZ Y4rW27UnKijFj67jZCLmD3WfTTxWpTuBGVfn0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1diAFm46+ddxhVX38wXLNdBMIw0uO1E01qzzufF2/bQ=; b=c0RJhECufcCYzab7ub4jLn1rjqmhbC+5Y5vkLLHmNhE6XQAEl4OWTs6lYyGEZz6aTv 0FKvoO6ErsXTUN26PuQivDAX+Hl39+2V124UrwyPGXF8X3rKBMNE8L+FPoWbbW6yo1XX qpuoS86YJWzWmcMS6iY9SqTXNG6HnKyJnBqsUHCXYiP5nSz+ELAxfOo/Cobk8fAW5Atz ucddMNKzsKoIi+dSeOGXHsXFNbVkGPvzKfsYRqQZL5/RWiaW8xKRYF3Q7nTWVUaT4qIR iEHUkR/cyhT8m8USMmhqf235vat0KcVC+yujCfdlAVME2wG25eLmSFL/ERvBeJ3xFIrX 3iUA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530BFRS2UV8HWjnHLL3yxM/s73R379ex9kUaqtqfDfdF248AMus/ eyUbuJCzoVO/uSa2ZDQxQcubVLu+Hq0c7dUy5XU3GA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxCBbtUPcl1jCpnHf2DZxbpYu23m3cNKlVbhDkcIjW5gh737FzG9Zfj3DakF/oC6RFULaaZBKUlQBVehkg8a2E= X-Received: by 2002:a25:bb84:: with SMTP id y4mr71679ybg.450.1623863396701; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Levi Morrison Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 11:09:46 -0600 Message-ID: To: tyson andre Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] ImmutableIterable (immutable, rewindable, allows any key&repeating keys) From: internals@lists.php.net ("Levi Morrison via internals") > Over half of the objections are to functionality, over half to unspecified reasons, I support people choosing not to directly respond with their unspecified reasons, but if anyone is open to sharing I would appreciate them doing so. I agree with Nikita that the concept is useful, and with some refinement it could be more acceptable to voters. If we know more about these "unspecified reasons" then perhaps we can improve something for them as well. A guess: they don't really want unproven data structures going into core, well, because you see the state of some (many) of the SPL data structures.