Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:114832 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39376 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2021 17:07:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2021 17:07:17 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0261E1804D9 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 10:22:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-vk1-f176.google.com (mail-vk1-f176.google.com [209.85.221.176]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 10:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vk1-f176.google.com with SMTP id 27so2683852vkl.5 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 10:22:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:openpgp:from:mime-version:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=NlBGGJVF/y6ZEGH8Qawwy+3ORsLdkC+5zgbYflkmwc4=; b=No8wTu25pMvKWCcKAPUfXvztFZiPgjkBa94T4kZvy/QkC4pLVyD4KKU/X0yclSUIW+ vx20uUioji+7M6YSR1unkQGvnv3HNFPu0BXwyoE+SUQXPFFJEUDkgl8bo0HXmRUNQz/c Dt82qW3Ns06Ev3C9l1lgPSHCuXidA87Sf6HUCYUM64GKQyx4Nhpa3RntofjQaxm4e7zQ GtzhRyeBYJ1GplhD9dlKMqpL5yRghcDQgiNEJ3jkLIHorSrbGDjDlAsQHWA5u3d/fgcg nWcfFfrVqyLwv3k3hONRjmzSy/bEBB5KE+zNZ/GStKHb4uo4mEsGhp53g7ppaG7LQtfQ idYg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531h5j0HjEjeDZShHphWdqluooOYVE4keWtg3BQHUNR3zC9xv24y eXHU8oZmQgTM2SSfP115ObVUdsz6JXvl0wb52SEhTGvg/JXf X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzswY21IBsSAeU+P6+qUz+Orna0fvlm5/Fx+R4S7toliW0kXTiUgUpk7AN+arEC3gibRrfwS+9QAP/lpPji2n0= X-Received: by 2002:ac5:c389:: with SMTP id s9mr10093172vkk.5.1623432166973; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 10:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 717284730244 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 10:22:46 -0700 Openpgp: id=199F9DFEF6FFBAFD MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 10:22:46 -0700 Message-ID: To: PHP Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Zend Engine License in PHP source code From: patrickallaert@php.net (Patrick ALLAERT) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hi, Today I sent 2 e-mails to license@zend.com, one from (signed), one from with the following content: ===== START EMAIL ===== Hello, I have found a few issues with the header we usually found in PHP's source code as well as with the license itself: +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Zend Engine | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Copyright (c) Zend Technologies Ltd. (http://www.zend.com) | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | This source file is subject to version 2.00 of the Zend license, | | that is bundled with this package in the file LICENSE, and is | | available through the world-wide-web at the following url: | | http://www.zend.com/license/2_00.txt. | | If you did not receive a copy of the Zend license and are unable to | | obtain it through the world-wide-web, please send a note to | | license@zend.com so we can mail you a copy immediately. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Problem 1: The license is not available at the provided address. The "LICENSE" file under php source's Zend directory stipulates: "Copyright (c) 1999-2006 Zend Technologies Ltd. All rights reserved." Problem 2: Does it mean that the copyright isn't covering the last 15 years? Problem 3: Point #5 and #6 stipulates: 5. Redistributions of any form whatsoever must retain the following acknowledgment: "This product includes the Zend Engine, freely available at http://www.zend.com" 6. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software must display the following acknowledgment: "The Zend Engine is freely available at http://www.zend.com" However that is not correct, the Zend Engine is not freely available on Zend's website. What do you suggest to solve those issues? Kind regards, Patrick Allaert ===== END EMAIL ===== In both cases, I received the same direct error answer from distant mail server with: 550 5.4.1 Recipient address rejected: Access denied. AS(201806281) [DM3NAM02FT011.eop-nam02.prod.protection.outlook.com] This means that in addition to the 3 problems mentioned in the above e-mail, there are additional ones: Problem 4: There is no way to get a copy by e-mail as mentioned in the copyright header: "If you did not receive a copy of the Zend license and are unable to obtain it through the world-wide-web, please send a note to license@zend.com so we can mail you a copy immediately." Problem 5: There is no way to get a written permission from Zend as stipulated in the LICENSE file: " 3. The names "Zend" and "Zend Engine" must not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without prior permission from Zend Technologies Ltd. For written permission, please contact license@zend.com." I'm afraid this is material to make jokes from. What can we do to improve that situation? Sorry for bringing a non technical topic to this ML. Cheers, Patrick - -- - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: FlowCrypt Email Encryption 8.0.7 Comment: Seamlessly send and receive encrypted email wsFzBAEBCgAGBQJgw5vlACEJEBmfnf72/7r9FiEE8faSI4+8FmblpczUGZ+d /vb/uv1BEhAAl5QSWFqEx5No/ti9Jk9UYwRtzuwojD3oxuoNtcI/Bn5TB4c3 hf1ermFErQz9O6YRNnd3EJedgwJ/FpJJx7FWt1loqUuyoW1lr0qOGkuuqB1o ZCkMd9sJiHflEABUXFSgqPHjrZBv9eHGQ1eN1pL9yDrAvbNvWewhdJm0g/TC lfeDcKBJ+l0KG/npSBBin8FVofdclLRINLSP215jDvVRxbJDEjNyyAq7lNmm 4PEA+yRa8kb8IotEVqeu6SIDchir33oM50wWoT1nembQO3RtT+3r4iTILCsn ekpqFR95itDoIy/oaTXL0KOYXl5tCjl+4lo0FgUc3I+6VYu6qW88o8Bp6KIs mQVSq46WPDQCmaTK+ngba1JBkzpAGM3nGOgDaIJDZNrGV8RxerPchpM2FD5s uIMelKfKpgcOnBXJXdpZDcWLWC8snAAUpxf/8ypTyswxowCpsIa+aZjoZ7bb C1FxnDKG/HDA4hTOjVkyrgfmeq1BYCw55I63mXvqPsQ5L/4+kd82TpyrfwcS 1Qnq2Y39uvD4Dt11weKcCRl3qwlsjY5s5gzeThVDyyd0GjYSflndf7NPPtai BOvL/6CulnSWtBr5Tge3O74QmHOa3I6IZHrEyBbBU16c9el+6CYKdleAi3sv pYg0635Cy694eKlRrcxAG2YDFVa5vMCDoKU= =4ajl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----