Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:114825 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 84329 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2021 06:43:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2021 06:43:05 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A921804C9 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 23:58:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-vs1-f43.google.com (mail-vs1-f43.google.com [209.85.217.43]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 23:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vs1-f43.google.com with SMTP id z15so3229054vsn.13 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 23:58:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=U0yPW47xqYbdqu6ZjsRQeJsEOeenX5mX17Zq8DCNUeI=; b=gOVPAmLPPuXgfvdr6e6A7zG3GgB9kuCFv3S8UbnB04/I5Od9IaCREab97ltVobuSHL eJdJBiDhAS0NWtpWku1WKKLXZYEckbH5Qfj4+2QCxi2mSyOOr+yY/azbCCmLBwazbnTw XTEqGfdBtmgSdOYnx95l1pNyOdEsIk0gDPn2qPT+b/O6QBIw0eIokjExpuMdMLxp9lpR WVt7FLJPeFM9zQs3qpkfUH1BF2DNJCy3RE7MPCVnX01CDtR3ruY6cVD284bQ5IfjqbhC Zgl+aAQthv2116OuDpEWlnhL8F9hnvL0goA3TmkOyvUqUGemKX2lrWE61IS/j9SzttCo xUrg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=U0yPW47xqYbdqu6ZjsRQeJsEOeenX5mX17Zq8DCNUeI=; b=MGB9jB9OHOMRfxfUBMlzqhCDt9SB0AUP6zqJqhTJm+c0ChL47foUBiGU4TO8w4AgaQ CBxOs3ctAwVgE1dvE2nuaN/AH8/JMuOeZkcM0GaluzDi466O4/4qVzuiOt41w7tHqWUw f8MxSXOQAJW8QSksZyYZPKMu85Xn/9c1Ob5Vx4rLkJ7L4bnXd/YNigdjqsOyudgVxzcb 5R8J68fQC+vu77Clx/UYFnTNqfNYjNJMoJusw8cYmFff0+kOHOC9irRCxGyktQxUCwgw Kh8lTgyu3vp6u4psL7YmQUK7NwbEJJFKQEwzgBDr+gS40cOeVwr6ihcs92iwExVDvHGc g4bQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531tMggGKIWttbpyvC9lP6DYMtZ/E681WzUZZkBGJ6SaOx0gG9Cj FkruAP3SYY94Fv3U2lZ5b5o8bvTZt1XpO8I67L0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzYPHvQjLNRO4GC2ltShIbXrCA+Uxcv9OWk88IEmgbEegeTMVsqjW2k+LVX0SAlqKkVAqjzY/kIl4cGe8Hip+U= X-Received: by 2002:a67:eccc:: with SMTP id i12mr8502280vsp.45.1623394708643; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 23:58:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 09:58:17 +0300 Message-ID: To: Kamil Tekiela Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f0649205c47808ef" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Deprecate autovivification on false From: dmitrystogov@gmail.com (Dmitry Stogov) --000000000000f0649205c47808ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" hi, I wouldn't care about disabling autovivification on false, but I vote "No", because I'm against the deprecation. Thanks. Dmitry. On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 11:24 PM Kamil Tekiela wrote: > Hi Internals, > > I have limited the RFC to disabling autovivification on false only, which > was the initial scope of the RFC. The only two possible cases remaining > will be undefined and null. After what Tyson Andre clearly explained, null > is commonly used and leads to many more complex situations. > > I have opened voting on https://wiki.php.net/rfc/autovivification_false > which will end on 2021-06-23T20:00:00Z > > Link to the discussion thread: https://externals.io/message/114595 > > The implementation is pending, but if someone wants to suggest one, please > feel free. > > Regards, > Kamil > --000000000000f0649205c47808ef--