Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:114743 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 12583 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2021 19:36:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2021 19:36:38 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC25C1804BE for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2021 12:50:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT, FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-qv1-f50.google.com (mail-qv1-f50.google.com [209.85.219.50]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2021 12:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qv1-f50.google.com with SMTP id c10so4037525qvo.9 for ; Sat, 05 Jun 2021 12:50:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=16qyGBM+r8+z/xlSlyJvHZkh1YliH4+v2ZXWWveqmmE=; b=EpNxNXQGH9xu5CElASxnyYUmzs2Ke0rGpXciKly88cLOWv3wOWnOLx7GjUzPNuf6he kNTMvu5+63/7cHZIw1k65yytjqaJDrMKAG17JuEkHtyCSmeF5rGnS9NkYjFbpMgWe1gU 4SrStMWo+Ik/W/rxHHfMI+gDDKiA/ocl0/P3NMw7nk0Sogh+A5BkXpsXY3O+gXgLlWCk EC5Y+27UZzhoCovWnBPAB1va7QGy8z8h/bZqTC0m1XHqM9gT3Znko/WUKpqjEb5uMPis Ja89FjLcO74Ndyr6rHeZyUHWfx7c7hbYFIHmlwir3nRLeEmq1SpRMqQMLs5VgTvea/Wo 4ZKA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=16qyGBM+r8+z/xlSlyJvHZkh1YliH4+v2ZXWWveqmmE=; b=Nj1LgImrb7F1pOodMjBo14HMmRSWBgdHlKatgISq5qYzD3I2PZjBySiz4XV4omA15t yZB6OYCxBqP3gaIZBu/AIHaeeMTeG6R8PoN5MKqaBSOIZlkNC9p1DYyZ2M983cfIxPgh 7WuaMrih5xbsyRZUvOnlSty/thtXr1dxDaEVXPCHVzs0bIAqFPA1POVC10Tdf6xULH4Z bu3/s41IifvbHadlYOu7dWxZE4wSfwgokTryH7PWyanvqinwLWeDtmj8tnW72D5Q+eB+ wVpDrWQzxOk3b6h4VE/+cU0v1tiY2SGM2jtSNW4G9+eM024ntDCB0dY9my2QQ51NkQAW Y79g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530fWitfMYaApZVXQfb/BpGfBUCrT5dTeCqKf1N8wvSmj/McTiNg WxfrEgGWXkj+5W1XxtaYOHrgAmwJkR9ifO2fmVfz07l9mTOQvFrI/TA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyBn88XkgfE4SscGZgMSTcVbMeHhxMB1aCo+zOhazBjcJ1Wg6t3YAtQ6Nj3/7JZ/J6z8WAsyxBY/Aa27r34lqc= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:f542:: with SMTP id p2mr10707019qvm.24.1622922640672; Sat, 05 Jun 2021 12:50:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7DC82988-16E1-4228-BF94-46E633BD116E@woofle.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2021 20:50:29 +0100 Message-ID: To: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007ec9af05c40a1fa3" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Disable autovivification on false From: tekiela246@gmail.com (Kamil Tekiela) --0000000000007ec9af05c40a1fa3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Internals, I have reworked the RFC based on some feedback. The improved RFC now will hold 2 votes. One vote to decide whether the behaviour should be deprecated from false, and another from null. If there are no objections then I would like to start the votes in a couple of days. However, I would still like to hear from you whether you use autovivification from false and/or null in your projects. So far, I was not able to identify when this would be useful in real-life scenarios. RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/autovivification_false Regards, Kamil --0000000000007ec9af05c40a1fa3--