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How voters interpret the https://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaces_in_bundled_= extensions RFC for existing namespaces,=0A= =A0=A0=A0 as it makes recommendations but also permits the global namespace= for new functionality consistent with existing functionality - the way I e= xpect voters to interpret it may be different from how it is interpreted in= practice.=0A= =0A= =A0=A0 iterable_all() seemed to have been preferred over iterable\all in th= e previous straw poll.=0A= =A0=A0 I would expect https://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaces_in_bundled_extens= ions to shift that preference towards namespaces, but there have been no vo= tes on an RFC using namespaces yet.=0A= =0A= =A0=A0 Additionally, I didn't notice this earlier, but the RFC recommended = (but didn't mandate) that "Namespace names should follow CamelCase." - so I= 'm not sure if iterable\ or Iterable\ makes the most sense to others.=0A= 2. To see if there's interest in that functionality before spending too muc= h time on it. E.g. for CachedIterable, https://externals.io/message/113136 = had little feedback=0A= =A0=A0=A0 but would enable implementing a standard library for iterables th= at was much wider in scope (e.g. iterable\flip(), iterable\reversed(), iter= able\take(), etc)=0A= =0A= (Sorry - It is difficult to tell if feedback from a few people on a mailing= list is representative of the majority of voters and there have been no RF= Cs for me to look at as a precedent).=0A= =0A= Previous discussion can be found at https://externals.io/message/114687=0A= =0A= Thanks,=0A= Tyson=