Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:114649 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 21085 invoked from network); 27 May 2021 16:03:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 27 May 2021 16:03:15 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A8A1804D8 for ; Thu, 27 May 2021 09:15:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-lj1-f169.google.com (mail-lj1-f169.google.com [209.85.208.169]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 27 May 2021 09:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-f169.google.com with SMTP id 131so1588961ljj.3 for ; Thu, 27 May 2021 09:15:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=SdQlIsK891UTIDn0+fo4PosY2UMk4Xw0xu87Tz4l+jU=; b=Z0w6s/zU3ujF6/zQqveB4Nk/Vo0c/zYMYu3MbmO5GaYSZdTMdSQZrz52YmOmQaRuVy V+AAhUCysHbUnPaerftzf3rFgRaXMoR4ohzs8tcI9hGhKJ8x6JrpMqYH3xdd7ROuyXOT x8dkmP8Q3agEJ9zB7SgvC0MwL90kYCmemppFwiBsjjH5Duoz0tbj2iikJNp1zN33v0DT Rq/6gadUcKEKQBuoYJJ9ytaNCNBUMc/iwMqigHUOEa9Pk1gkQxQI+sM6Ht+TOzdz9Jm1 UfOa4MYpYrlDT6KLl4WiqDWSi9v/ukqdAzbZt9zGcfAXlyNJUerJN2hcFsHgAXwCUxQS iCaw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=SdQlIsK891UTIDn0+fo4PosY2UMk4Xw0xu87Tz4l+jU=; b=bCyRot1YGTn5vjYXtoD7i0mpZkWeEtGjIzpTbHtEBO8oE0S/45YymvyTWcMwIQGWHF yKOxDPZSoigkzYvHtj3xeuUrv04jzy2mMF7KS/y5hZbWmQNh6nUmaQwZg0qsAwM/4KTE YHVmZYy0TqRv6GNlk3nEQMxCMe/VE5XWns22CCOA0wvzqFJ6e9utfZwt1FxwBmRMvVWO NQhgq5LEC8R+l26ymCBEEkZ171xAVChq3VJZizQqiHu3FDGhdAt13uXQMLFKrm2nIo0s c6krsdb6teCKEYs//Q+ika0xlOd0DqvJQh6FmfbP6I7Kz6/YKg0LfcsHr9C/OzgeNtHo V7EQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531d24vYIQxLhij+HcxZXS7b+Zh2h0kRwLxY7ee7Lyaav2+CqyKD 6x0OA+md9greWU0ORVFQV5vWxafO5/vfz7nxJXqwvB9o6nPyi+U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzDCPx14f8pZzQYi56R5R6uo7Onk6UC5YI+3s4FJUeWvt568/ZY5wqM/MNhPJ0xDhjycIB4fNWFXS5sd5Zl2eA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:105a:: with SMTP id x26mr3239042ljm.440.1622132100562; Thu, 27 May 2021 09:15:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <319c4288-5934-b218-d6eb-0b787a2cdef1@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <319c4288-5934-b218-d6eb-0b787a2cdef1@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 18:14:49 +0200 Message-ID: To: Andreas Leathley Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a2043705c3520fb7" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Consensus Gathering: is_initialized From: guilliam.xavier@gmail.com (Guilliam Xavier) --000000000000a2043705c3520fb7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 3:55 PM Andreas Leathley wrote: > Also, is_initialized cannot be done in > userland, as passing an unitialized property to a function already leads > to an error > The feature request was indeed `is_initialized($foo->bar)` (language construct, akin to isset); but the PR was only proposing `is_initialized($foo, 'bar')` (regular function, akin to property_exists). Anyway, that's a "Wont fix". (PS about previous messages: I actually don't write custom serializers myself) -- Guilliam Xavier --000000000000a2043705c3520fb7--