Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:114633 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 81586 invoked from network); 27 May 2021 11:31:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 27 May 2021 11:31:19 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02E71804E3 for ; Thu, 27 May 2021 04:43:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-io1-f51.google.com (mail-io1-f51.google.com [209.85.166.51]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 27 May 2021 04:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io1-f51.google.com with SMTP id d25so133325ioe.1 for ; Thu, 27 May 2021 04:43:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=W10y4DUJe+MF69eqUsaNYmFeB5n2E05YZLNWAEPItYs=; b=Mno2tUwfDBoALzrbyHJ7Af4yatHsBVmpLijeASv4kuD5fdET9eqJiu2tA5YBwaKdAG 5fR0bDrPg/4nj+LeSL0hcP1zt2A9X7sgE4ytRv8TbBlm3wMrFwkrfY7B3X1eWHa1U5PH Bh9yXefmLCUFZZEUfv2zGUvooGSIuB5YHtGedUh3mcuK5gOduLnYxHSdw5iZzHDsVff8 iX0v9eKguetucMWp1SYiCw6lhDLZiuZZbHy5YtNOA3R+dhXa//NKB0G6UT6hw/3/iW8t K20VDTSqgnf65nXscAjO001wKtT7VddJp2YYjwwyc5HURvTMO+9OMnTxiiXtdW78Xw7k 0N/g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=W10y4DUJe+MF69eqUsaNYmFeB5n2E05YZLNWAEPItYs=; b=FdOy33wkbt6FyzANQurTG8wFZsPoCqn5mK6fQF1WYA+kY5F5Bd3XifWx02tgSSWfQE Muo829Oz7PlNIskRaDM23hwI23ppS9CJLVV8QDl9ExJqoH+2kIbLkN9A9McUU91Kxx/K Es5DM4Uv72DJreyRiF4MyqgBmOQDuOBxZdeoJ2GdR9qXyU5RUrMZO4rpeeTEfnDGLeRJ i/kHTlGZDgre2n7uoALJ1ZhbO2xmwjcXnvvDtZjG33oWX8oMQi0egzG102L+qSjAk7mQ yWIKH4pg8MB9/XYIASExAtRhImTidkY2TxRAfkJRU9LvDcfqRvky+fyMHlfqZb304mng QdGQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53198wHal4yhEQ8EfhPKR/i7TG6kVF0FDdlEykhNZ4Hw8JdWfYdh /DMwQzsbL+J7co1VSENi8EmtCRFpy6PApOP/34g= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzNMwQ+tMp/HJyYtm4LZTJrnq9m5oZw+SLwYs+icjlJD9lbvbpJewNTd1HzCUX4ZQ8TAlvl8hAkF75KraErRD4= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:884e:: with SMTP id t14mr2348807ios.111.1622115782703; Thu, 27 May 2021 04:43:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <80fb5a8e-d770-49fd-45d5-ea6f4b004513@gmail.com> <2874cf7c-e55d-4100-bb01-af11a5ab6e87@www.fastmail.com> <93bee614-8bca-7e35-94a6-518beafac8ba@processus.org> In-Reply-To: <93bee614-8bca-7e35-94a6-518beafac8ba@processus.org> Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 13:42:50 +0200 Message-ID: To: Pierre Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Marcin_Brzuchalski?= , Guilliam Xavier , Larry Garfield , php internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000033e6005c34e4398" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Consensus Gathering: is_initialized From: ocramius@gmail.com (Marco Pivetta) --000000000000033e6005c34e4398 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 1:29 PM Pierre wrote: > why not having it ? > More API, similar-but-not-exactly-like `ReflectionProperty#isInitialized()` Minimalims should really be valued more :D Marco Pivetta http://twitter.com/Ocramius http://ocramius.github.com/ --000000000000033e6005c34e4398--