Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:114423 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 30696 invoked from network); 11 May 2021 20:54:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 May 2021 20:54:24 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907671804DA for ; Tue, 11 May 2021 14:02:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 11 May 2021 14:02:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1620766929; bh=aGG6ENzhO7ZoiBzSHL4n5XUllMbz30k+JMPjXahNn+Y=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=SjNRefZmo4ZFe+32T5Yx4fq8zuTRroJBr+FAgPu0AIJ8bomSp00nvu9AUrTDWTsI8 3MhXva6KlLPCAb9fH9sGtmHdt+OUqs489CRGofJ3P/DZk4Qk7nl0ohhxO8F0COPwbD iTTA3RGjKLSJqrSnjp/plmv+GN7DjsgMNoO8s8g4= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.2.130] ([84.179.251.96]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MQv8n-1luW861Tex-00Nvmv; Tue, 11 May 2021 23:02:09 +0200 To: Kamil Tekiela , Peter Bowyer Cc: PHP internals References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 23:02:07 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:/zrbGXOsL+WK3bmuNqSIVTb0lJ+9sAuutXFwocbbFsi9cTfquYj zE1pT/ho1BA17Hc2aCHSavp6fU63NNRG0lY77q8OTz1KWo2UNbaihaUZPAze225p5U35z3w bcz1to5eGJe543XYrbVkNEG+X2AHHPDqEOXmr4Pb6/GIa6q7anWKdwjVy4flkwMlfxW2SSg jG7wXK5d8hVO1yIpbXNsg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Z1mOVCN95KI=:OqnxLUYtehqQ+8TL8PB1np jAhsxgfwNcsX5kIzDNpWQVGd+NpWG0BFRY+7HR4KBZUrp/ReOmiiDOc8ZbsYmgZHPf6RHpBXN xq12jqhB5R34U+MZhMs8M1oLEfhd3c8rsfC3AEjlQyCoPsm0qPYsqLP+FkuYSzhdkNgI8lA5Q bgB6eaW29fkNlMad6NCfdRoGTG8baSFxFQPl9kmW13unl/nUNCb+Edc6LsXzNFzrnhV26vuPI +SWgYGWb29TuJsioGy5Dq3BXQzNkZcwPq2KsS6BZYsC9Cd+aZwTLbWf+/zKh5og6A0Qk+yMl/ 3GFMbjUCeRzBqKlZIcONfVsy/haUO9Om3z5g6BiyZZjOPLxew89H3DdcXbgNHVBmVd0U/j0Oq Zx6xnt0Nl919wXROxW2ZtQZmAtZ9eujvx6xVd97HCSCY+kKI7kP5SntDRB4CXx30sjUBt9GKK RH6QaPBJ+pjb0bPzIW2b4NvPS0uBckMtBf4HWCfUQLDWr3k6QGMsbzlewSp9+pxPPEqVmeSBa c5hGGD2sgRSbaPcNZPjc/7GJ6MvbbCIKKy1jq3Ro5BDOOBC9RenXF4VOgpPSKwV4JXBB6Kh4U uovgLNVUAGJI1ld+EdYP4FQq+4QkrorC0BN9C6Qfln9wPBvZUK+Q+P9OUsq1S/3iBWsRbODGz D5NbwGvFjq4vFhjEpQDysX+07A/15awZGvNNaJG5ulF4OlScpD0pUg7WN8GhX73ebfdh/dXeP +qyoKvPbMLa0thQw9Cro5kosaUn5zTDRs51Mp6KGLOmMwWFfCMW1t0Y9UyLaLTkW4/Nq/4spY wOc2QFZAOg0tj4Yztl7ZkNCzTfFD9A3NOG6OD46Nukq2vQjc8rW1Awz43Ancy42lgn70qsN/+ BuHYYBLh0ou2ydrQMBWcCu81fza+QOHEIaO1311AzqAhcD8ukqDCGNvv9lmSwNv3CS2BgNthQ uRIQp29taQcKwt184C1/VAY3ZA5v5LANdLqESmWs9mH5wE4lnTxkqZL8GSA8hn11etL8NtrsZ FoJ86CLDGKz5seQPr8ns3qVk16UUgh5ay9Hq/3JRjMpdyRkn1+qRorJpg5WGnEUoZTHGJll5U rBMQFQmFZffOmigrHXvux8MGnaVoVFzsb4rSl3zyhqTg7Z+LBeWyAqInAi6s1eFM55e9KrUo0 Lvp08akqeECCyKxcpGO60BlFFG+3/uu2N01TMc3pT1PFngVDQCLWOnXZnWG0qlihzrUWM= Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Could we drop the bottom-posting rule? From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 11.05.2021 at 18:58, Kamil Tekiela wrote: > On 11.05.2021 at 18:44, Peter Bowyer wrote: > >> I doubt "bottom posting" is a term people who started online in the >> last 10 years know - with today/yesterday's example, my takeaway was >> the original poster didn't know what it meant. > > Yeah, the first time I heard about it is on this mailing list. I didn't > know it was a thing before, and I admit I might still not understand why= it > is a thing. [=E2=80=A6] Bottom posting is nonsense. It is actually about posting comments inline, i.e. right below the context (a sentence, paragraph, etc.) you're referring to. And it's about snipping content which is irrelevant to your reply (of course that could be misused to rip parts of former replies out of context, but that should be avoided). Just read this message in a few weeks. Even if you don't remember the discussion, you likely don't need to read other messages of this thread, because it is self-contained. And this is the whole point of this style: to be able to read up on a (part of a) conversation later. For read-once contents, top posting can make perfect sense (although a chat may be more suitable for such conversations). =2D- Christoph M. Becker